Originally Posted by Adam (Post 193588)

Tex and Indy in this thread and the "Shot Birds Flutter" thread have exhibited all that is worst about faithful LDS culture.

They accuse anyone who does not take every word directed at them by Ms. Beck of being easily offended. They have assumed that anyone who disagrees with any word of Ms. Beck does so out of unrighteousness and a lack of the Spirit. They have told all those troubled by her words that they are spiritual midgets without discernment. They have condemned any who felt Ms. Beck went too far as sorely lacking in intellectual prowess.

Anyone who disagrees with them in the least must be a sinner. Anyone who is not on their side is clearly on Satan's side.

There is no use arguing with those who start the conversation with this position. Your trying to explain your view will only result in more self-righteous insults and condescending condemnation being hurled down upon your head.

Beck's talk isn't really my issue. I was not greatly bothered by it. But I have compassion for those who were hurt by it. I understand how certain sentences, however carefully crafted to be vague and defensible, were hurtful to many. Instead of condemning those who thus suffered as unrightous, I think Christ would embrace them and love them and understand them.

And that is the difference between the Tex's and Indy's of the world and me--how we view Christ. Is he the angry Israelite God throwing down fire from heaven to fry the wicked? Or is he the compassionate Jesus who embraced the adulterous woman and condemned her not.

Of course in reality he can be both, but which one is he to you in your life today? The answer is clear for all to see in how you react to those who are, in your mind wrong. When you mock them, and push them into the "unrighteous" corner, you show which God is your God.

It is right that by that judgment which you judge, so shall you also be judged.

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 193588)

And that is the difference between the Tex's and Indy's of the world and me--how we view Christ.

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 189995)

And you would have gleefully attached the electrodes to the testicles of the gay students at BYU in past decades and pulled the shock levers as they hardened to the gay porn right?

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 189502)

Indy laughs at very real suffering, he will reap what he sows. But he will pass through his bitter harvest in the end.

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 189486)

There is a specific place in hell you will have to pass through on your journey.

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 186415)

I hope this woman gets in a car wreck and has both hands severed at the forearm. I hope her hands burn in the gas fire and are unable to be reattached. I hope the explosion of the car as she is crawling away sends shards of hot metal into her eyes making her permanently blind.

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 142018)

I probably would bang a 18 year old hottie if [God] asked--just being honest here.

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 159838)

I haven't told him I wouldn't kill for him. I might [be] willing to kill many people for him. Just not my wife and kids.

Originally Posted by Mrs. Funk (Post 193478)

No, I'm serious. My visiting teachers came into my house and read me part of the talk and reminded me that being a mother is our primary role and that we need to spend time in the house, not out seeking secular pursuits.

Needless to say, I felt like dirt afterwards... and pulled out my law books... and started studying so that I have some hope of not turning out as condescending and narrow-minded as these women.

Originally Posted by RedHeadGal (Post 193646)

Do they ever ask you if you are going to law school (which is what I presume you are doing) for fun? I love hearing that perspective on women's higher education.

Originally Posted by Mrs. Funk (Post 193834)

NO! They never ask if I'm going to school because I like learning... or the challenge is fulfilling. I'm working for a month in at a Paris law firm this summer- how cool is that?

I'm completely happy for people who get married and have kids right away- if that's what they want and feel is right!

Originally Posted by Spaz (Post 193846)

FWIW, you have my full support. Refuse to have kids for as long as you feel it's right for you.

Originally Posted by Indy Coug (Post 193622)

Since you seem compelled to mention me repeatedly, would you care to actually provide a direct quote of anything I said that is that objectionable other than the stretch where I was deliberately trying to get Norcal's goat?

Originally Posted by Mrs. Funk (Post 193970)

Why are you being sarcastic? I was being sincere.