Some people are in a sour mood this morning.
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The efforts of the LDS community was what put Prop 8 over the top. It was an absoultely overwhelming effort - well financed, well coordinated and well carried-out. The No on Prop 8 campaign was less than impressive, from what I observed. It was everything that the yes campaign wasn't. It was vitually non-existent anywhere north of Sacramento (admittedly a very very small percent of the overall population). They did nothing effective to win the swing vote, imo, whereas that was the focus of the Yes campaign. |
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Like SU says, enlighten us. Please. |
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Has the Prop 8 campaign dulled his sense of humor? Will it return now that the election is over? I hope so. "Come on, you're a clown fish. Say something funny". |
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The AP report on the Prop 8 election
Pretty objective, I think:
______________________ LOS ANGELES – Voters put a stop to same-sex marriage in California, dealing a crushing defeat to gay-rights activists in a state they hoped would be a vanguard, and putting in doubt as many as 18,000 same-sex marriages conducted since a court ruling made them legal this year. The gay-rights movement had a rough election elsewhere as well Tuesday. Ban-gay-marriage amendments were approved in Arizona and Florida, and Arkansas voters approved a measure banning unmarried couples from serving as adoptive or foster parents. Supporters made clear that gays and lesbians were their main target. But California, the nation's most populous state, had been the big prize. Spending for and against Proposition 8 reached $74 million, the most expensive social-issues campaign in U.S. history and the most expensive campaign this year outside the race for the White House. Activists on both sides of the issue saw the measure as critical to building momentum for their causes. "People believe in the institution of marriage," Frank Schubert, co-manager of the Yes on 8 campaign said after declaring victory early Wednesday. "It's one institution that crosses ethnic divides, that crosses partisan divides. ... People have stood up because they care about marriage and they care a great deal." With almost all precincts reporting, election returns showed the measure winning with 52 percent. Some provisional and absentee ballots remained to be tallied, but based on trends and the locations of the votes still outstanding, the margin of support in favor of the initiative was secure. Exit polls for The Associated Press found that Proposition 8 received critical support from black voters who flocked to the polls to support Barack Obama for president. About seven in 10 blacks voted in favor of the ban, while Latinos also supported it and whites were split. Californians overwhelmingly passed a same-sex marriage ban in 2000, but gay-rights supporters had hoped public opinion on the issue had shifted enough for this year's measure to be rejected. "We pick ourselves up and trudge on," said Kate Kendell, executive director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights. "There has been enormous movement in favor of full equality in eight short years. That is the direction this is heading, and if it's not today or it's not tomorrow, it will be soon." The constitutional amendment limits marriage to heterosexual couples, nullifying the California Supreme Court decision that had made same-sex marriages legal in the state since June. Similar bans had prevailed in 27 states before Tuesday's elections, but none were in California's situation — with about 18,000 gay couples already married. The state attorney general, Jerry Brown, has said those marriages will remain valid, although legal challenges are possible. |
Legal Challenge
Seems to me it would have to be a challenge based on the U.S. Constitution, unless opponents want to try to invalidate the election due to irregularities of some kind. The current U.S. Supreme Court is not going to make same-sex couples a suspect class, but a future one might.
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My angst springs from the LDS involvement at an institutional level (note: I don't really care how individuals chose to vote. It's their state and their consciences). This - to me - was a chance for the (institutional) LDS church to divest itself of some of the commonplace charges of bigotry, parochialism, and provincialism, or at least to remain behind the scenes. Instead, it seems (as Santos initially suggested) that the institutional efforts of the LDS church and its administration may have been the difference. This discourages me. |
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