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SeattleUte 06-09-2006 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute
Again, it's a private organization. It doesn't have to allow anybody to be leaders. And what legitimate proof is there that it's based on homophobia?

Okay, so it's a private organization. How is that relevant to whether it's homophobe? So is the KKK; does that make it not racist? (I'm not equating the BSA with the KKK, unlike Steve Benson; just making a point.)

il Padrino Ute 06-09-2006 04:04 AM

Way to dodge my question.

And the definition of morally straight is relevant as to what one thinks it is. Always has been, always will be.

il Padrino Ute 06-09-2006 04:05 AM

I think the KKK is racist. Their activities of murder is legitimate proof that it is an organization based on racism.

Again, where is the legitimate proof that the BSA is homophobic? Why not answer my question rather than divert attention to something else?

Robin 06-09-2006 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute
Again, it's a private organization. It doesn't have to allow anybody to be leaders. And what legitimate proof is there that it's based on homophobia?

Hmmm... define 'legitimate proof.' Then define 'homophobia.' Then tell me of a single person who is 'homophobic,' and offer 'legitimate proof.'

Robin 06-09-2006 04:15 AM

The KKK does not officially support murder. It has, in the past, cutivated a culture where individuals murdered blacks, even though this was against the official policy of the klan.

il Padrino Ute 06-09-2006 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Robin
Hmmm... define 'legitimate proof.' Then define 'homophobia.' Then tell me of a single person who is 'homophobic,' and offer 'legitimate proof.'

I hear the homophobic accusation whenever anyone disagrees with anything to to with the gay agenda or gays themselves. It seems to be an easy way to manipulate things in order to get what the pro-gay crowd wants.

You have yet to answer the question - are you conceding that it's your opinion only that the BSA is homphobic?

The_Tick 06-09-2006 04:25 AM

It is BSA's ball. They get to make the rules.

I am fine with that.

If they said "no fat white kids" then I am fine with that too.

We will create our own FWSA (Fat White Scouts of America)

Why go somewhere where we aren't wanted?



This is my biggest problem with everything gay. You are either with them or against them. I call Bull.

Jeff Lebowski 06-09-2006 04:34 AM

Way to hijack the thread, guys. What started out as a nice observation turns into yet another gay debate. Sigh...

il Padrino Ute 06-09-2006 04:35 AM

I apologize, as it's probably my fault for asking the question about proof.

My bad.

Robin 06-09-2006 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by homeboy
Way to hijack the thread, guys. What started out as a nice observation turns into yet another gay debate. Sigh...

I agree. Sorry guys. I have a lot of respect for the BSA of my youth, and many fond memories. I am sure that Mike is following more in that tradition than teaching homophobia. Every kid needs to spend a week or two each year 'roughing it' in the country. Props to Mike for making that happen.


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