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Ceteris Paribus 04-29-2008 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Solon (Post 215085)
Question: In your opinion, why did these families feel obligated to withdraw their membership? Why not just quit attending? Did they seem to have a psychological need for closure, or what?
Those who actually resigned shared some similarities. There was a dominant husband (3) or wife (1) who, after a period of inactivity, convinced their families that resignation was the only way end the limbo and bring about what to them was peace of mind. I don't know enough to say that they achieved that elusive goal.

SeattleUte 04-29-2008 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Ceteris Paribus (Post 215063)
The stake president even funded a self styled DNA expert (and protege of Hartman Rector) by the name of Rod Meldrum (http://www.bookofmormonevidence.org) to come speak at a stake fireside and discuss his scientific and historical evidence that BofM events were centered in the Great Lakes region.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry, I don't mean to laugh at your travails but reading these lines caused me to choose between gulping at once too much hot coffee or ruining my key board. I have a sore throat. But it was worth the laugh. It's like creationism cubed. I should hope he did more harm than good. This is too funny to be true clear down to the part about him being "a protege of Hartman Rector." I'm sure firebrand Rector has some awesome natural history creds!

MikeWaters 04-29-2008 08:56 PM
The BoM teaches us that people turn to God when times get hard.

Times are not hard right now.

History tells us that times are not always good.

My intuition tells me that people will turn to God again. When the time is right.

BlueK 04-29-2008 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 215067)
Very interesting. This is something we have discussed at length. Credit goes to SIEQ for the phrase "lack of innoculation."

Hiding history will not help. Forthrightly tackling it from the beginning is the key.

Also, at the end of the day, people that are convinced of the truthfulness of the BoM based on "how much it makes sense" or its historicity will always be on an unfirm foundation.

This is a church that is based on the gifts of the Spirit. Without them, there is nothing. And that has to be the underpinning of all tempests that will fall upon us.
Agreed. What it comes down to for me is my personal spiritual experiences and journey. I don't need to have every last question answered perfectly right now, as practicing the principles of the gospel and following the Spirit works for me and makes me happy. Not all scholarship pushes one away from the church either. It's a huge mistake to make that conclusion, IMO.

MikeWaters 04-29-2008 08:57 PM
The fact that he had to be paid says enough. Also in hard times, people will buy snake oil.

SeattleUte 04-29-2008 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 215105)
The BoM teaches us that people turn to God when times get hard.

Times are not hard right now.

History tells us that times are not always good.

My intuition tells me that people will turn to God again. When the time is right.
No. You stole that from Tolstoy.

MikeWaters 04-29-2008 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SeattleUte (Post 215108)
No. You stole that from Tolstoy.
Only Tolstoy I have read is Anna Karenina. Is it from AK?

Sleeping in EQ 04-29-2008 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SeattleUte (Post 215108)
No. You stole that from Tolstoy.
The spirit will bring things to your rememberance....


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