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Solon 10-28-2008 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Swarthout (Post 285376)
I believe SU started a thread not long ago about the Church consistently being on the wrong side of history. Joe Vogel, and LDS writer for the Huffington Post, has an excellent piece on the same theme:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-vo..._b_138037.html
What's the over/under for "number of days left in this kid's BYU career"?

(according to his website, he's currently a graduate student)

Solon 10-28-2008 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Solon (Post 285427)
What's the over/under for "number of days left in this kid's BYU career"?

(according to his website, he's currently a graduate student)
Has the LDS church really donated $19 million to fight prop. 8? Or is this money LDS members have contributed?

Archaea 10-28-2008 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Solon (Post 285427)
What's the over/under for "number of days left in this kid's BYU career"?

(according to his website, he's currently a graduate student)
This argument is a gigantic leap of faith:

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If the concern really was the practical welfare of the family, perhaps the Church could instead invest its vast resources into making healthcare universal and affordable, expanding the Family and Medical Leave Act, cracking down on child predators, and improving the quality of our educational system. All of these issues have a direct impact on my family and millions of others.
Screw him.

If he wants to make an argument or arguments, many of which I agree with, then do so, but to turn it into a socialist rant, screw him.

Tex 10-28-2008 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Solon (Post 285429)
Has the LDS church really donated $19 million to fight prop. 8? Or is this money LDS members have contributed?
I'm guessing it must be the latter, since in all the news reports I've seen on Prop 8 fundraising, I've never seen the LDS church at the top of any list.

Tex 10-28-2008 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 285434)
This argument is a gigantic leap of faith:



Screw him.

If he wants to make an argument or arguments, many of which I agree with, then do so, but to turn it into a socialist rant, screw him.
Cue Cali Coug ... 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

Goatnapper'96 10-28-2008 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 285434)
This argument is a gigantic leap of faith:



Screw him.

If he wants to make an argument or arguments, many of which I agree with, then do so, but to turn it into a socialist rant, screw him.

If Utah County had a homeless shelter miracles like people petting spitting cobras would abound!

il Padrino Ute 10-28-2008 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 285434)
This argument is a gigantic leap of faith:



Screw him.

If he wants to make an argument or arguments, many of which I agree with, then do so, but to turn it into a socialist rant, screw him.
Amen, Brother Archaea.

YOhio 10-28-2008 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski (Post 285386)
Wow. That's quite an article.

Who is this Vogel guy? The name sounds familiar.
He directed The Divided State.

Jim Swarthout 10-28-2008 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Tex (Post 285435)
I'm guessing it must be the latter, since in all the news reports I've seen on Prop 8 fund raising, I've never seen the LDS church at the top of any list.
You raise an interesting point. Go to http://mormonsfor8.com/ and check the donor rolls to see how many of the FP or Q12 have personally donated their own money to this effort. I think it speaks volumes that they have not put their own money where their mouths are on Prop 8.

Tex 10-28-2008 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Swarthout (Post 285446)
You raise an interesting point. Go to http://mormonsfor8.com/ and check the donor rolls to see how many of the FP or Q12 have personally donated their own money to this effort. I think it speaks volumes that they have not put their own money where their mouths are on Prop 8.
The First Presidency donated under the names Stalin, Pol Pot, and Saddam Hussein.

I'm not sure what names the Twelve used, but I heard a rumor that Packer got dibs on using Osama bin Laden.


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