MikeWaters |
05-05-2009 08:36 PM |
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Originally Posted by Indy Coug
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So the church should excommunicate him for being lazy or incompetent? For merely opining that waterboarding may not meet the definition of torture?
Mike, I get it that you don't agree with waterboarding. That's an entirely reasonable interpretation of the torture statute. In my opinion, rational minds can conclude either way on that specific issue. However, to assert that what Bybee has done is worthy of excommunication is completely unreasonable.
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I believe that Bybee conspired with administration officials to implement torture, in violation of US law and common Christian decency and morality.
Moreover, I do not believe that waterboarding can be reasonably interpreted as not torture.
Don't tell me the same hands can both torture and bless. If you conspire to break the law to torture human beings, I mean, what is the list of things that are worse?
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So you cheated on your wife, let's excommunicate you.
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So you conspired with corrupt officials to torture other human beings. Nice work.
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If you can't excommunicate a torturer, I'm fairly certain the list of things that ought to be excommunicable is pretty small.
Lastly: I grant that we all make mistakes. I grant that repentance is part of being in good stead. In Bybee's case, however, with years to think about what he did, and years to consider what happened as a result of what he did, and having looked at the fact that others have called him wrong, that his policy has been rejected, that he knows prior case law, that he knows of things like the Khmer Rouge, he says "I WAS RIGHT."
He is dragging the church through the mud, again and again, as it is repeated again and again how he is LDS.
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