Ha ha ha. Try to keep up with me. I think you got that the other way around.

When my wife runs with one of her marathon friends, they do long runs at about 9:30 pace. Last Saturday we did a 5K and she finished just under 8:00 pace. The one time we went running together this winter we did about 10 miles at 8:15 pace.

I'm not sure about hills. If she is anything like me, she stinks at hills and loathes every second she has to fight gravity going up.

LOL, you must be thinking of someone else. Seriously, I'm too embarassed to post my Ogden Marathon time. I promise though, if invited on the team, I'll be a sub nine minute miler. Still pathetic, I know.

It sounds fun, but once you add hills, anybody guaranteeing 7:30s is either damn fast or miscalculating. As far as working it, I like hills. As far as timing it, I hate hills.

With those hills I would be going 17:30.

Unless you wussed out and quit without being injured, there's nothing to be embarrassed about. Not that I haven't had some race times that I will never divulge, but amongst us weekend warriors, finishing is all that matters.

Well said. There's nothing like a nice hill to ruin a perfectly good run.

I'm certainly not guaranteeing 7:30's. Just to average 9's on hills I'd need to really kick it up a notch. My most recent uphill runs were more like 10:30's or so. But I think I could get there.

Well I did alot of walking the last 3 or 4 miles, but my pride kicked in the last few blocks as the spectators increased and I managed a weak run/shuffle to the finish. You were right about that little hill at Ogden. Doesn't seem like much, but it really kicked my butt too. The Veyo hill at St. George was longer and steeper but I didn't have a problem with it. Maybe because it was early in the race.

Yeah, that hill is in a terrible place, especially if you start too fast. The one time I ran Ogden I made the mistake of going too fast in the first half. Wound up walking much of the Parkway portion, and ended up with a 3:56.