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cougjunkie 08-15-2007 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluegoose (Post 113236)
Since we're all talking about our favorite reasons for bans, my favorite came in the wake of one of Hoya's better orchestrated friday afternoon coups.

His idea - begin several threads pretending to be responding to posts by other well-known posters (MW, Archaea...)which weren't actually there and see who would take the bait. Of my 20 or so lifetime CB posts, probably half of them went into this effort. I believe someone named Vegas took the bait the hardest and was getting pretty ticked off that he couldn't see everyones posts.

My penalty - 14 days I believe.

The reason given - "Pretending to respond to a poster that wasn't there."

Not even worth an appeal, it was so ridiculous. But it made the afternoon much more tolerable.

I remember that, i was also involved and recieved 14 days, Vegas was going nuts that was awesome.

bluegoose 08-15-2007 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cougjunkie (Post 113252)
I remember that, i was also involved and recieved 14 days, Vegas was going nuts that was awesome.

Yes, you and I were the only ones to get 14 days for that one. Everyone else either got a lesser penalty or were let off completely. Hmmm.

UteStar 08-15-2007 08:37 PM

This is pretty weak, but I got a warning for calling Rush Limbaugh a 'blowhard.' When I replied back and even gave them the definition of what that was, he replied back that he didn't care. FWIW, there are 147 times that blowhard has been used on the board...mine was the one that got nailed. I don't remember who warned me.

MikeWaters 08-15-2007 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by UteStar (Post 113259)
I don't remember who warned me.

One who likes Rush. Which means he is a switch-hitter.

TheSizzle36 08-15-2007 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyLingo (Post 113240)
I see. When I get banned, it's because I lack self-control.

But when you get banned, it's because Jefe is a fascist.

Got it.

Find where I complain about unfair bannings? Usually I know my bans are worth it. The few times that I have had serious beefs with my bans/ban lengths, I've usually had them shortened by the appeals process.

Doesn't mean I won't say "damn" because I get banned... but I don't bitch and whine like a teenage girl.

Then again, unlike you I am not a teenage girl. So I guess it makes sense.

JohnnyLingo 08-15-2007 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UteStar (Post 113259)
This is pretty weak, but I got a warning for calling Rush Limbaugh a 'blowhard.' When I replied back and even gave them the definition of what that was, he replied back that he didn't care. FWIW, there are 147 times that blowhard has been used on the board...mine was the one that got nailed. I don't remember who warned me.

That's where my feud with Pete started. He banned me for three days for calling Waters a troll. The word troll is used about 10 times a day and I've never gotten banned for it. Pete gets mod powers, starts throwing them around and that's it.

RC Vikings 08-15-2007 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluegoose (Post 113236)
Since we're all talking about our favorite reasons for bans, my favorite came in the wake of one of Hoya's better orchestrated friday afternoon coups.

His idea - begin several threads pretending to be responding to posts by other well-known posters (MW, Archaea...)which weren't actually there and see who would take the bait. Of my 20 or so lifetime CB posts, probably half of them went into this effort. I believe someone named Vegas took the bait the hardest and was getting pretty ticked off that he couldn't see everyones posts.

My penalty - 14 days I believe.

The reason given - "Pretending to respond to a poster that wasn't there."

Not even worth an appeal, it was so ridiculous. But it made the afternoon much more tolerable.

That's pretty funny. I wish i could have been a part of that.

TheSizzle36 08-15-2007 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluegoose (Post 113254)
Yes, you and I were the only ones to get 14 days for that one. Everyone else either got a lesser penalty or were let off completely. Hmmm.

I did a couple of days for that. Good times. And well worth it.

JohnnyLingo 08-15-2007 10:05 PM

Hey EWTH, why can I receive boardmail but not send them? That doesn't make any sense.

ewth8tr 08-15-2007 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyLingo (Post 113286)
Hey EWTH, why can I receive boardmail but not send them? That doesn't make any sense.

try to post again and click on your warnings queue for the answer.

JohnnyLingo 08-15-2007 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ewth8tr (Post 113288)
try to post again and click on your warnings queue for the answer.

Sweeeet got the Full Santos! Who else has that... Robin? Others?

Fantastic news.

Tex 08-15-2007 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyLingo (Post 113290)
Sweeeet got the Full Santos! Who else has that... Robin? Others?

Fantastic news.

Out of curiousity, when one gets the "Full Santos" what exactly does the message say?

JohnnyLingo 08-15-2007 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex (Post 113292)
Out of curiousity, when one gets the "Full Santos" what exactly does the message say?

There's no official notification other than your Moderator Warnings has a new entry.

Quote:

8/15/07 11:50am Board Rules El Jefe Show Appeal
Description: I have decided to ban you permanently.
Suspension: The moderator gave a 36524-day suspension associated with this penalty.

Tex 08-15-2007 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyLingo (Post 113310)
There's no official notification other than your Moderator Warnings has a new entry.

So it's really not permanent. It's just a 100-year ban. Your great-grandchildren should be able to post. :)

tkh9 08-16-2007 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 110781)
What is Snipe's auto-ignore score? Not very high I bet.

I guess the main philosophical difference is in the approach to *shaping* the community.

Jefe has an idea of what he wants his site to be.

I have an idea of what I want this site to be. For example, I don't want 40 anti-Mormon posters here always talking about how evil the LDS church is.

Jefe enforces his vision. I ask others to join in. I ask the community what they want.

It's not either of these approaches are radical.

As to me saying maybe you think you can make more money with me gone, that is an inference from the idea that you feel the "pissing contests" detract from the enjoyment of the masses, and therefore hurt the bottom line (potentially).


What the hell does your auto-ignore score have to do with anything? Do you really believe that the auto-ignore system was designed for you? If so, you're giving yourself way too much credit.

tkh9 08-16-2007 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RockyBalboa (Post 110872)
No they are different guys. However,,,lol....I'm surprised that BluePete isn't a moderator. He'd fit the mold perfectly.

That was a low blow.

tkh9 08-16-2007 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cougjunkie (Post 110908)
I love the Q and A sessions with Jefe.

So with that being said one quick question.

Be honest now,

Is there a "black list" of sorts, of certain posters? I know you say that you dont read every post but when you see a post from certain posters are you more likely to read it just to make sure it is not breaking the rules? If this is true how do i get off of said list?

Truthfully, I avoid some of the troublemakers posts. Just like I avoid posts from people I consider idiots. There's some overlap there.

El Jefe 08-16-2007 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyLingo (Post 113263)
That's where my feud with Pete started. He banned me for three days for calling Waters a troll. The word troll is used about 10 times a day and I've never gotten banned for it. Pete gets mod powers, starts throwing them around and that's it.

Actually, he took the cue from me. I've been giving warnings to other people for the same thing.

El Jefe 08-16-2007 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkh9 (Post 113351)
What the hell does your auto-ignore score have to do with anything? Do you really believe that the auto-ignore system was designed for you? If so, you're giving yourself way too much credit.

Mike definitely wasn't the main catalyst for that one. Actually, lots of people had asked me for a trollizer feature, but I thought the UteFans version was poorly implemented. I tried to make a more fair trollizer-type feature.

TheSizzle36 08-16-2007 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkh9 (Post 113353)
That was a low blow.

I'm still not sure if it is more of a low blow to BluePete or to the mods. :)

nikuman 08-16-2007 06:37 PM

Wouldn't it just be easiest if there was a general realization that there is an element of subjectivity to enforcement and leave it at that? Maybe I'm not such a golden boy after all. Maybe my infractions are minor enough that they don't get noticed. Maybe I don't actually have infractions but wish I did so I could build some street cred.

Indy Coug 08-16-2007 06:38 PM

Lawyers will never get street cred, so you can just end that pipe dream right now.

BYU71 08-16-2007 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nikuman (Post 113449)
Wouldn't it just be easiest if there was a general realization that there is an element of subjectivity to enforcement and leave it at that? Maybe I'm not such a golden boy after all. Maybe my infractions are minor enough that they don't get noticed. Maybe I don't actually have infractions but wish I did so I could build some street cred.

The people that I know are mods (except 1) I get along with very well. I dare say they are some of my favorites over there on the board. Favorites doesn't mean I agree on everything though and I am sure they understand that as well as I do.

I also realize I will be noted for discipline more often than some others. I understand that too, as I don't like to be told how to think. Maybe it is an age thing.

Therefor I have never had a problem with getting suspended. I don't go whining to people over it or act like I have been singled out and picked on.

I have whined over things. I have whined greatly in regards to signing the meaningless rules agreement over and over. All in all they (CB) have a pretty darn good site which I think everyone would have to agree on the whole is well run.

I guess old age makes you funny. If my Bishop told me to leave church and not come back for two weeks because I had a blue shirt on. I would leave and come back when he said I could. If he told me I also had to sign an agreement not to wear any color but white, I would attend another ward. :)

RockyBalboa 08-16-2007 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkh9 (Post 113353)
That was a low blow.

It's not a low blow. It's an accurate description, but take it as you will. ;)

No worries tkh...I like you...see you at the tailgates.

JohnnyLingo 08-16-2007 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 113374)
Actually, he took the cue from me. I've been giving warnings to other people for the same thing.

So you made a major change to how you do things and didn't announce it to the board.

Sounds reasonable.

Calling someone a troll was never a bannable offense in the three years I've been part of Cougarboard. One day you decide it is and around the same time you make Pete a mod. This new rule is kept secret.

All I see is a new mod banning me for three days for something I'd never been banned for before. To me, it seems the new mod is overstepping his bounds and isn't trained properly. I make my feelings known and I'm not worth the trouble I cause.

It all goes downhill from there.

Well, at least I understand how it all happened now.

BYU71 08-16-2007 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyLingo (Post 113509)
So you made a major change to how you do things and didn't announce it to the board.

Sounds reasonable.

Calling someone a troll was never a bannable offense in the three years I've been part of Cougarboard. One day you decide it is and around the same time you make Pete a mod. This new rule is kept secret.

All I see is a new mod banning me for three days for something I'd never been banned for before. To me, it seems the new mod is overstepping his bounds and isn't trained properly. I make my feelings known and I'm not worth the trouble I cause.

It all goes downhill from there.

Well, at least I understand how it all happened now.

I don't know about you , but if it was clear someone didn't like me in their house, I would just move on.

I don't know if it is fair or not, but you and I are conservatives. Fairness isn't our issue, that is for liberals. We are about power and the excercise thereof.

Myself, I quite admire the efficiency with which Jefe wields his power.

JohnnyLingo 08-16-2007 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BYU71 (Post 113513)
I don't know about you , but if it was clear someone didn't like me in their house, I would just move on.

I don't know if it is fair or not, but you and I are conservatives. Fairness isn't our issue, that is for liberals. We are about power and the excercise thereof.

Myself, I quite admire the efficiency with which Jefe wields his power.

I've moved on. I just wanted to know how it happened exactly. Details were fuzzy and are clear now.

Thank you for your insight.

FMCoug 08-22-2007 04:33 AM

Not sure if Jefe is still monitoring this thread
 
but I just got a 14 day ban for making a joke about Utah Mormons. I asked what the difference is between a joke / poking fun / good natured ribbing and an "attack". His response was that there is no difference.

Yet back in April, when I got a similar ban for an "attack", I reported abuse on a post that was making fun of Texans. He added 7 days for wasting mods time. And told me that the Texas thing was just a joke.

So which is it? Is there such a thing as "good natured ribbing" or are they all attacks? If there IS a difference, a list of protected groups and those that are okay to engage in "good natured ribbing" would be very useful.

cougjunkie 08-23-2007 12:35 AM

So you cant comment on Utah mormons nor can you ask danoconda if he has threatened to beat people up in front of their bishops on cougarboard. But you can make racially, and politically insensitive jokes. I actually reported abuse on this thread just to see what would happen and 2 moderators have already read that i reported it. Yet the thread is still there. I think someone should crack on american miners being stuck 1900 feet underground and see what happens.

http://www.cougarboard.com/noframes/...tml?id=2921575

I just got this in an email from a friend.

Two Middle East mothers are sitting in a cafe
chatting over a plate of
tabouli and a pint of goat's milk. The older of the
mothers pulls her
bag out and starts flipping through photos and they
start reminiscing.

"This is my oldest son Mohamed. He would be 24
years old now."

"Yes, I remember him as a baby" says the other
mother cheerfully.

"He's a martyr now though" mum confides.

"Oh, so sad dear" says the other.

"And this is my second son Khalid. He would be 21"

"Oh, I remember him," says the other happily, "he
had such curly hair
when he was born".

"He's a martyr too" says mum quietly.

"Oh, gracious me ...." Says the other.

"And this is my third son. My baby. My beautiful
Ahmed. He would be
18", she whispers.

"Yes" says the friend enthusiastically, "I remember
when he first
started school".

"He's a martyr also," says mum, with tears in her
eyes.

After a pause and a deep sigh, the second Muslim
mother looks wistfully
at the photographs and says,

"They blow up so fast, don't they?"

Tex 08-23-2007 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cougjunkie (Post 115761)
So you cant comment on Utah mormons nor can you ask danoconda if he has threatened to beat people up in front of their bishops on cougarboard. But you can make racially, and politically insensitive jokes. I actually reported abuse on this thread just to see what would happen and 2 moderators have already read that i reported it. Yet the thread is still there. I think someone should crack on american miners being stuck 1900 feet underground and see what happens.

I don't find the joke particularly funny, but it's certainly not racially insensitive. Insulting to Muslims maybe, although one could argue it's consistent with world opinion (or American opinion) or the religion.

The Utah miners comparison is unbelievably obtuse.


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