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Tex 04-04-2008 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy (Post 204867)
So you basically cannot think of one.

Why accuse me of intransigence? I stated from the beginning that I didnt think either one was particular qualified. Hardly a stubborn position. And a bit hypocritical given that you continue to refuse to respond to a very reasonable request.

Did you know that McCain crashed his plane into some power lines before he even went to Vietnam? I guess he was in a few crashes, but one time was into a mess of power lines.

Perhaps if he had paid more attention while at the Naval Academy...

Check out this link to the US Veteran Dispatch. Even Vets are not too hot on John as CIC. Surely, veterns who understand war, understand what it takes to win a war, and have served their country would have a qualified opinion, no?

Or maybe they are all being intransigent?

http://www.usvetdsp.com/jan08/mccain...ary_record.htm

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjoh...ost_five_u.htm

I've already said, people are welcome to look at his record and decide they disagree with his approach. They just can't say the record either doesn't exist or doesn't matter, as you have.

TripletDaddy 04-04-2008 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Tex (Post 204874)
I've already said, people are welcome to look at his record and decide they disagree with his approach. They just can't say the record either doesn't exist or doesn't matter, as you have.

I never said it doesnt matter at all. of course it is great that he served in the military. That matters. It is a huge sacrifice.

I simply said that I am failing to see the correlation between having been a pilot in Vietnam and the ability to devise legislation that will make our own borders secure.

What is your take on the vets who think he is incapable? They dont seem to be very impressed by his military record either. I noticed you totally ignored that, but probably not on purpose.

Tex 04-04-2008 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy (Post 204877)
I never said it doesnt matter at all. of course it is great that he served in the military. That matters. It is a huge sacrifice.

I simply said that I am failing to see the correlation between having been a pilot in Vietnam and the ability to devise legislation that will make our own borders secure.

What is your take on the vets who think he is incapable? They dont seem to be very impressed by his military record either. I noticed you totally ignored that, but probably not on purpose.

I didn't "totally ignore" that. I said they're welcome to their opinion. The military is not a monolithic organization ... what do you want, that I should feign shock that some military guys don't like him? Heck, I don't like him.

All I've said from the beginning is that he has credibility on the issue of national security, given his proximity to security issues for decades. You seem to think it matters not more than a game of Stratego, which I find quite foolish.

TripletDaddy 04-04-2008 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Tex (Post 204880)
I didn't "totally ignore" that. I said they're welcome to their opinion. The military is not a monolithic organization ... what do you want, that I should feign shock that some military guys don't like him? Heck, I don't like him.

All I've said from the beginning is that he has credibility on the issue of national security, given his proximity to security issues for decades. You seem to think it matters not more than a game of Stratego, which I find quite foolish.

I was wrong to involve Stratego.

Your suggestion of Risk was the better one.

Tex 04-04-2008 03:34 AM

I will add parenthetically that I don't feel any large share of sympathy for McCain. He did the exact same thing to Romney during the Repub primary season when he said Romney favored a timetable for withdrawal.

So I suppose in a sense, Obama's dishonesty is simple fair turnabout.

TripletDaddy 04-04-2008 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tex (Post 204921)
I will add parenthetically that I don't feel any large share of sympathy for McCain. He did the exact same thing to Romney during the Repub primary season when he said Romney favored a timetable for withdrawal.

So I suppose in a sense, Obama's dishonesty is simple fair turnabout.

What was your take on Romney's national security credentials? I think I can already guess your answer, but go ahead.

Tex 04-04-2008 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy (Post 204925)
What was your take on Romney's national security credentials? I think I can already guess your answer, but go ahead.

I think Romney could play a mean game of Stratego.

Archaea 04-04-2008 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy (Post 204925)
What was your take on Romney's national security credentials? I think I can already guess your answer, but go ahead.

It is a legitimate question but for some reason I have always trusted Republicans more than Democrats in terms of foreign affairs and national security. The Democratic Party seems replete with persons who act like the French, i.e., capitulate whenever possible and never stand tall. That's purely irrational and emotional, but I can think of no Democrat from the 20th Century on, in which I can find any faith in their foreign affairs skills or in their national security acumen.

Socialists such as Obama and Clinton concern me, because they have forgotten their history, and don't understand the rule of nations. Bush is an aberration in that he's really a Democrat at heart, not a true Republican.


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