Hillary is done
 

The only way she can win is by blowing up the Dem party, calling in every favor, strongarming superdelegates, and forcing the party to accept Michigan and Florida delegates. I don't think there is any way she can win the nomination and the general election. The collateral damage would be too great. Man I hope this happens.

I am afraid you are right. The Democratic party commits suicide once again. When you let the fringes do the talking you end up with crappy candidates (like John Kerry) and IMO Barack Obama.

She will. Watch her.

Yeah. It was a close call, but the Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory yet again.

Who in the world would have thought the GOP could hold onto the White House? It's still not a given, obviously, but the more I research Obama's legislative history, the more I realize he's got, in those immortal words, "a lot of 'splainin' to do." On the other hand, I don't think the Dems could have won with Hillary. The red voters would have turned out in droves just to keep her out.

McCain's has weaknesses, too. There's his age and his inability to speak coherently. Although if the media continues to spin Obama's rhetorical powers as a negative, the latter could actually work in McCain's favor. The real weakness I see for McCain is that at this point he's making even Romney envious with all his flip-flopping; and instead of the maverick willing to stand up to the party, he's sounding more and more like just another war-mongering neocon. Last week he even reversed his stance on enhanced interrogation, which I never could have imagined him doing. And what's this with the 100 years war? That won't play well.

But Obama has provided McCain's campaign with tons of fodder. McCain should be able to pull off the win if he gets a little help from the architects of the swiftboating attack.

Originally I thought so, but at this point I don't think there's any way the party would allow the Convention to overturn the popular vote. Unless Barack just plain doesn't show up in Ohio and Texas, he's got the nomination won.

The only other possibility would be if Barack mysteriously ends his campaign and cedes the nomination to Hillary, and I really don't think the powers that be have sunk to mob tactics yet...have they?

3 weeks ago, Obama was something like 17 points behind in Texas. Now it is deadlocked.

I'm laughing at the notion that Hillary would be a strong general election candidate, but Barrack would be weaker. That is not borne out in the polling, nor by what sees in front of ones eyes.

With the dems doubling up the GOP in the primary voting, it would be very foolish to think the GOP is going to walk away with this easy.

Obama's legislative accomplishments.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...s_n_87493.html

I can't name any of Hillary's accomplishments. I'm sure there is something in her record someone could think of as an accomplishment, but I am not aware of it.

Staying married to a pathological philanderer might be considered an accomplishment.

What does this mean? Asking pledged (non-super) delegates to vote against their pledge?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap_campaignp...line_wisconsin

at least she didn't stay home and bake cookies.

That was hard to watch, yet fun.

Frankly I wonder if we won't see a self implosion by the Obama camp when they face some real opposition. All that campaign money, his lack of real accomplishments (even in Illinois), his liberal voting record, his need for tax dollars, and his naive foreign policy approach will all be exposed and examined. The harsh light of fame isn't treating Ms. Obama all that well the last few days. Her silence in the face of criticism only speaks to their arrogance.

I find Obama boring and someone that likes the sound of his own voice. Fourty minutes last night? Give me a break. This isn't Cuba.

This is a high risk candidacy for the Dems.

And Hillary is low risk? Again, this is wishful thinking.

An 80 year old inarticulate curmudgeon against a young, articulate, inspiring visionary. It's not automatic for the curmudgeon. If anyone can sell a vision of a non-right-wing America, it's Obama.

That guy is a state senator.

Barack Obama was a state senator.

Hope is making a comeback.

I think you underestimate the power of flowery rhetoric and a god-like persona.

Tell us again how Obama will never win Texas.

Hillary is a known factor, Obama isn't.

I never said it was automatic, indeed it is an uphill struggle. McCain is not at all likable. But I don't see Obama as invincible. The electoral college map is not his friend. Also, Obama has never faced the type of salvos he will start to face. His wife's comments are the type of thing that energizes electorates. His church will become an issue, further energizing people to vote against Obama.

I still say high risk.

You think Clinton has been playing softball?

Yeah, I do. Hillary has not gone as aggressive as she could have because she still needs those Dem votes. Also they generally agree on all the issues. Such will not be the case in the GE. I think I've already listed several issues that McCain can raise that Hillary won't.

That said, I expect Hillary to go full on negative over the next primaries. Nice to soften Obama up for McCain.

Jim Geraghty had a good take on this.

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.c...2NlZGE3NWI2MGQ=

The Clintons have already been floating the idea that Obama is too left-wing. The problem is that they can't make this argument without damaging themselves.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25039

Not with a cost of 53% tax burden to pay for his dream. With Obama, America dies a slow painful death. He is a man of no morals.

"I am going to try to be so persuasive, so that those of you who are still wavering...will suddenly come to the conclusion -- a light beam will shine through -- will light you up -- and you will experience an epiphany -- I have to vote for Barack!"
-Barack Obama

Since when has this been an impediment to a Republican getting elected. Sadly, I've decided democrats give better speeches (Reagan was a democrat first).

Get out the boots.

Obama's voting history on the hill is one of the most liberal in the entire Senate. Even more than Billary's...and that's pretty damn scary. He's more extreme left...than most. Socialism is on it's way.

Being a great orator does not and has never equated to great leadership. Though I'm not surprised how easily duped people can be.

Basically whoever wins the Presidency......Obama, McCain, Clinton....we're doomed to another 4 years of shitty leadership.

Obama is like an American Idol phenomenon. No experience, but relatively more charisma than the other lunkheads in the race, which makes him look much better than he really is.

Except he'll turn out to be more like Ruben Studdard than Kelly Clarkson.

And for the first time in my adult life, I'm really proud of my country.

I weep for my country because as we near breaking the color barrier for the presidency, we will forever be saddled with the legacy that a complete incompetent was the person that broke the barrier. A pyrhhic victory.

Lucky for us, GWB lowered the bar so far it is buried under the sand, and by comparison an ostrich would be competent as president.

What GWB has or hasn't done in no way makes Obama any more attractive a candidate. If GWB was running for office again, your comment might have merit, but since he isn't, it doesn't.

I've always felt more at home in the Republican party because of my aversion to dogma and and dogma's necessary hostility toward reason. I appreciate the frailty of reason, and empiricism, and the necessity of endless dialogue and examination. The irony of the democratic party is that it is hostile to America's nutty homregrown religions precisely because the democratic party is itself a kind of religion. Ironically, the Republican party is more of a big tent. Like all big tents, it houses a lot of people whose beliefs are just plain crazy or wrong. Like all religions, the democratic party tends, if unchecked by secular forces, toward fanatacism.

So now we have a spectarular failure of a Republican president, a man of lifelong low achievement and low intelligence, a pawn of unrealistic idealogues, our Nero if you will, and this election should be easy pickins for the democrats. But what do they do? Like all religions, they overplay their hand. Watch them blow it. Contemptuous of the silent, sensible majority, the democrats are setting themselves up for one of the big political shockers in our history.

We can only hope.

Well said.

How in the world can you argue that Obama is a worse candidate that Clinton in the general?

Cali, my friend, you need to pick your creed. You can't be both a devout Mormon and a devout democrat.

What do you mean the electoral college map isn't his friend? It is a huge asset for Obama right now. The African American community is voting in droves, and almost universally for Obama. That puts the entire south in play for the Democrats. You win one state in the south, and the entire election could be swayed (given the closeness of previous races). Obama is popular among Democrats, so the blue states should stay blue. He is attracting huge numbers of independents and even moderate Republicans to come over and vote for him. I think he could carry as many as 38-40 states against McCain (unless McCain can find a way to connect with the base, and fast).

McCain has an almost unbeatable opponent if it is Obama (assuming Hillary doesn't scuttle the Democratic ship along the way).

I hope Dems believe it's unbeatable, just Dewey thought against FDR, with us getting the last laugh.

Bush lost almost universally all black votes and still eeked out a victory. Some of his voting record issues will be open fodder, just you see. The rest of the country is not as liberal as the Democratic Party.

You know who struggles the most in an election about change? The guy who has been in office the longest.

Good thing the incumbent isn't running.

You forgot the exclamation points.

"You know who struggles the most in an election about change? The guy who has been in office the longest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"