Barry Bonds broke the HR record
I hope he doesn't go and get a big head because of this.
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what, did you say something?
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Does he leave the game now and go home, like he did before last night's game ended and like he does before 50% of his team's games end, or do you think he will he stay for the whole thing tonight?
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I remember vividly when Hank Aaron broke the previous record. It was magical. The entire nation was enthralled. Does anybody give a rat's ass about Barry Bonds and this record? I don't.
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Did barry bonds use steroids? I dont know, does evidence point to the fact that he probably did? Yes. But if it is so obvious that he cheated then why are we on our 3rd grand jury, why has George Mitchell the MLBs private investigator been at it for over a year, as well as many other investigators and the only inkling of evidence is a leaked grand jury testimony, yet he is still playing, he still just broke the record and we still have no indictment?
You cant tell me that he was the one player that covered his tracks that well, especially when all of BALCO went down. So until it is proven without a shadow of a doubt I will enjoy the moment and know that i just watched history be made. Barry Lamar Bonds is the greatest homerun hitter to ever live. |
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A-Rod will be revered until Canseco's new book drops and he's indicted for steroid use too. |
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756, absolutely amazing. |
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I don't hate Bonds. I think he gets too much of the blame for the steroid era when there is plenty of it to go around and not just for hitters. We don't know how many pitchers were juicing (cough-Roger Clemens- cough) and how that might have affected hitters. Bottom line, my reaction was much like the fans' reaction in San Diego when he tied the record. They booed him at the plate, but when he hit the HR they all cheered. It's exciting to see history made, even when some of it may have been manufactured.
Hank Aaron's video message added some legitimacy to the record imo. |
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I always feel a little squeamish quoting Jose Canseco. But one thing he told Congress that day in March 2005 was absolutely true. He said it's impossible for any of us to know exactly how many more home runs anybody hit because he was taking steroids or anything else. And, of course, it's impossible to know how many more someone might have hit if the pitchers weren't taking them, too. Bottomline is that Barry put the bat on the ball. He gets two kudos from me. |
CNN said that Barry set the "world record" for home runs in a career.
I hate idiots like that. Sadaharu Oh hit more homers. It's only accurate to say "MLB record". Professional baseball sucks. |
The only thing special about that moment last night was a teaching moment if you have kids, or for ourselves for that matter.
That while yes you can break records and go down in history, but it will come at the cost of ones own personal integrity and honesty. Barry Bonds is a piece of crap. |
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Does Bonds feel bad that his trainer is sitting in prison for refusing to testify about Bonds' steroid use?
I mean, does it bother Bonds at all? I'd be shocked if it did. |
I think that baseball fans are kind of nostalgically blind when it comes to how they view the "heros" of baseball's past. In doing so, there is an application of "unwritten" rules and standards that is applied to Bonds. Fair or not, he is held to the standards of the "non steroid ere," and as such, will never measure up to many of the greats of the game.
However, if some of those players were held to the behavioral standards of today's professional athelete, they would be suspended frequently (Ruth & Mantle have been specifically documented as having problems in these areas). Regardless of what measuring stick is used, it is important to understand, at least in my view that this alleged steriod problem is one that was created or at least fostered by Major league baseball. As such, it has no choice but to celebrate records broken by players from that era. This is a problem that baseball higher ups seemed to know about and did nothing about...to the point where Jose Canseco has become the most credible source to many on the steroid front. For a game with such a storied past of both cheaters and non cheaters, baseball seems to be in a sad current state of affairs...one that it might not be able to pull itself out of. Attendance may be up in some ball parks, but overall, as this record manifests, the interest in major league baseball in America is waning and it'll take a Sosa/McGuire & Ripken like chase to bring it back. |
It's funny how Canseco has gone from pariah to pariah-prophet.
And he says he has the goods on A-Rod coming out in his next book. |
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I know there are masking agents and what not, but I'm still surprised that MLB and George Mitchell haven't been able to catch anyone significant outside of Giambi. |
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yet he is the non-cheating golden boy. |
Bottom line is that in a sense steroids saved baseball. The home run chase between Sosa and McGwire brought back the fans post strike. I believe that owners and commisioners looked the other way because they knew the behavior was restoring the fan base.
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I know, I was just trying to bring up Canseco.
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I wonder how many times Barry and Sammy have been tested since 04...
You would think a bazillion times. If Barry juiced, Clemens juiced, A-Rod juiced (who has lost 15 lbs from last year), etc... The body changes don't shock me as most, take a look at a picture of you at 22 and a picture of you at 35 and see how much bigger most of you are, including the ones who have stayed in shape. |
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Those of you who don't believe Bonds juicied, PM me. I have some incredible ocean-front property I am looking to get liquidate at amazing prices.
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That argument that others are doing it too always makes me chuckle. |
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Oh wait...they nailed Giambi...so its Bonds and Giambi...and nobody else. The whole process has been a joke. |
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Saying so doesn't and shouldn't detract from the piece of crap that Barry Bonds is. |
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That makes a lot of sense... |
The only thing consistent with baseball has been scandal. No era in baseball has been free of it. So I think that even people that make the "put the record in context argument" are full of it too.
Barry Bonds was the best player before the juice era. And he was the best during. |
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