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MikeWaters 09-24-2007 03:51 PM

bees are doing better
 
The beehive had been doing pretty poorly. The same number or less bees than when I started. Hadn't filled out all the comb. It seemed as if the hive was in retreat.

It had been about a month since I last opened it (which is way too long).

So I opened it up, and to my surprise it is doing quite well. There is new comb, and the hive is almost full comb-wise. Lots more bees than before. And not that many hive beetles (I killed all that I saw). So that means there is a fall nectar flow going on right now.

So I put on the super yesterday (the 2nd story of the hive designed to capture honey production). I don't expect I will have any honey to harvest. It will have to all stay so the hive survives the winter.

My member neighbor gave me a nucleus hive, as well as some wax foundations. He also gave me a stainless steel honey extractor. Basically it is a hand-powered centrifuge to remove honey from frames. It's probably worth $300 used. He used to have hives, but hasn't had them in a long time.

nikuman 09-25-2007 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 127042)
The beehive had been doing pretty poorly. The same number or less bees than when I started. Hadn't filled out all the comb. It seemed as if the hive was in retreat.

It had been about a month since I last opened it (which is way too long).

So I opened it up, and to my surprise it is doing quite well. There is new comb, and the hive is almost full comb-wise. Lots more bees than before. And not that many hive beetles (I killed all that I saw). So that means there is a fall nectar flow going on right now.

So I put on the super yesterday (the 2nd story of the hive designed to capture honey production). I don't expect I will have any honey to harvest. It will have to all stay so the hive survives the winter.

My member neighbor gave me a nucleus hive, as well as some wax foundations. He also gave me a stainless steel honey extractor. Basically it is a hand-powered centrifuge to remove honey from frames. It's probably worth $300 used. He used to have hives, but hasn't had them in a long time.

That sounds more sophisticated than our centrifuge, which was a sanitized galvanized garbage can with two hand-welded wire baskets in turn welded to a central axis with a gear at one end, with teeth that meshed with a crank (the gearing was such that it took a bit of effort to get it moving, but once you had momentum, you could really cruise). Used an electric hot knife to cut off the wax cover, and then chewed the wax like gum.

MikeWaters 09-25-2007 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nikuman (Post 127607)
That sounds more sophisticated than our centrifuge, which was a sanitized galvanized garbage can with two hand-welded wire baskets in turn welded to a central axis with a gear at one end, with teeth that meshed with a crank (the gearing was such that it took a bit of effort to get it moving, but once you had momentum, you could really cruise). Used an electric hot knife to cut off the wax cover, and then chewed the wax like gum.

nice. another beekeeper in our midst.

nikuman 09-25-2007 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 127609)
nice. another beekeeper in our midst.

A very rusty beekeeper - it's been years, and I hung up the smoker, so to speak, at about 17. My father convinced me that I could safely move a hive sans protective gear at twilight rather than wait for full darkness. A week spent as the elephant man (15+ stings, most of which were on the face) was not pleasant (did I mention I am a bit allergic?).

MikeWaters 09-25-2007 04:30 PM

I understand you should never open a hive at night.

And I thought if you were moving a hive at night, you needed to close it up first.

Did you know that one of the largest beekeeping operations that sells bees is a scant 45 minutes from you?

http://www.beeweaver.com/home.php

http://www.rweaver.com/

(used to be the same operation, but brothers had a severe falling out years ago).

I think they are among the top 3 bee providers in the country.

nikuman 09-25-2007 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 127617)
I understand you should never open a hive at night.

And I thought if you were moving a hive at night, you needed to close it up first.

Did you know that one of the largest beekeeping operations that sells bees is a scant 45 minutes from you?

http://www.beeweaver.com/home.php

http://www.rweaver.com/

(used to be the same operation, but brothers had a severe falling out years ago).

I think they are among the top 3 bee providers in the country.

When I move to my ranch in S. Utah (in 30 years, probably), I'm definitely keeping bees.

MikeWaters 04-06-2008 07:32 PM

My friend who was visiting me last week, I had him open up the hive just so he could have the experience and feel more comfortable about things when he does it in the future (he plans to get a hive).

I myself opened up my hive today. Lots of progress. Lots of bees in the super building comb (the super is the second box that is placed on top of the hive body box--the super is for the bees to store honey). No honey yet in the super.

The point of all this is that I will get honey this spring.

MikeWaters 04-14-2008 06:10 PM

The bees are kicking butt. The number of bees in the super have doubled in just one week, and I suspect in one more week, all the comb will be filled out in the super. Which worries me, because bee people are telling me I need another super pronto, as in right now. I just put in an order for 10 medium supers with frames. Plus I had to buy 100 wax foundations. Foundations, unfortunately are not cheap at 50 cents apiece.

This honey better taste good!!!

MikeWaters 04-17-2008 04:28 PM

So I ordered my 10 supers plus frames and wax foundation.

I just received notice of shipment. They said that shipping cost would be "actual charges." So I look at the notice of shipment and for weight it says "103 pounds."

OUCH!!!!! I'm scared now. :)

MikeWaters 04-17-2008 11:00 PM

I should add that our UPS person must really hate us because sometimes Farrah will order 200lb of dog food mail-order.

MikeWaters 05-14-2008 07:52 PM

I went to possible harvest honey from my hive, and found that my hive ate all the honey. Where all the honey was, baby bees are.

Well, at the least the hive is bigger and stronger. Maybe I can get some honey in the fall.

SeattleUte 05-20-2008 04:55 AM

So is there kind of a bees starter kit suitable for urban environs?

creekster 05-20-2008 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte (Post 222961)
So is there kind of a bees starter kit suitable for urban environs?

You want to set up a little surprise for the home teachers again?

SeattleUte 05-20-2008 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by creekster (Post 222970)
You want to set up a little surprise for the home teachers again?

I've said before this is a cool hobby.

MikeWaters 05-20-2008 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte (Post 222961)
So is there kind of a bees starter kit suitable for urban environs?

yes.

SeattleUte 05-20-2008 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 222978)
yes.

Link?

MikeWaters 05-20-2008 12:57 PM

something like this:
http://go.netgrab.com/secure/kelleys...sp?product=248

you would need to buy your bees separately.

http://www.westsoundbees.org/
http://www.pugetsoundbees.org/
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cls/625196703.html

I would contact a club about buying what they call a "nuc". A small hive. It's probably too late to start from a package of bees.

SeattleUte 05-20-2008 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 222982)
something like this:
http://go.netgrab.com/secure/kelleys...sp?product=248

you would need to buy your bees separately.

http://www.westsoundbees.org/
http://www.pugetsoundbees.org/
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cls/625196703.html

I would contact a club about buying what they call a "nuc". A small hive. It's probably too late to start from a package of bees.

Thx.

MikeWaters 05-27-2008 02:59 PM

My dad got me a queen excluder for my top medium super. This only lets the worker bees in, and not the queen, so that the queen can't lay eggs and create baby bees, but the worker bees can make comb and honey.

If I am able to harvest an entire medium super eventually, that would be somewhere in the region of 2.5 gallons of honey.

MikeWaters 06-02-2008 04:38 PM

The bees have gone a long ways towards filling up that medium super with honey. I will get honey yet, and now I am worried that I need another super delivered to give the hive more room.

Also I put in a small hive beetle trap with vegetable oil and banana. Hope I catch some of those fiends.


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