Just Watched the Flt. 93 Docudrama on A&E
 

It inspired me to do some research to make sure I understood the film with some reasonable perspective. This is what I found out (most of the numbers are from the CDC).

In 2001:

* 157,400 Americans died of lung cancer (and we still haven't started carpet-bombing Raleigh?).

* 42,443 Americans died in motor vehicle accidents.

* 40,600 Americans died of breast cancer.

* 31,500 Americans died of prostate cancer (ratio of money spent to research breast cancer cure to money spent for prostate cancer cure is 9:1).

* 31,000 Americans died from bad reactions to doctor-prescribed drugs.

* 30,602 Americans committed suicide.

* 20,308 Ameicans were murdered.

* 19,250 Americans died from hypertension (we won't rest until Juan Valdez is brought to justice).

* 17,000 Americans died from the use of illicit drugs.

* 14,175 Americans died from the effects of AIDS/HIV.

* 14,078 Americans died from poisoning (or have the terrorists already won?).

* 7,600 Americans died from taking aspirin.

* 5,555 Americans suffocated to death.

* 3,300 Americans died of gallbladder cancer.

* 3,281 Americans died from drowning.

* 2,986 Americans died from terrorist attacks (note: figure includes dead terrorists).

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Re: Just Watched the Flt. 93 Docudrama on A&E
 

Coffee doesn't cause hypertension. What nonsense.

Re: Just Watched the Flt. 93 Docudrama on A&E
 

Well duh. How many men enjoy playing with their girlfriend's prostate?

Re: Just Watched the Flt. 93 Docudrama on A&E
 

Are you kidding me ... What is nonsense is the belief that coffee isn't a drug ... as I sit and write this I watch each of my collegues (four) down their second or third large Tim Horton's coffee of the morning :wink:

Tim Horton's is a popular coffee and doughnut chain in Canada ... as a franchise that likely has 1/4 the number of stores in Canada as McDonalds has in the US makes more money anually than McDonalds world wide

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Nonsense, NONSENSE ... ok maybe coffee isn't the casue of hypertension but good golly :roll:

"Are you kidding me ... What is nonsense is the belief that coffee isn't a drug ... as I sit and write this I watch each of my collegues (four) down their second or third large Tim Horton's coffee of the morning

Tim Horton's is a popular coffee and doughnut chain in Canada ... as a franchise that likely has 1/4 the number of stores in Canada as McDonalds has in the US makes more money anually than McDonalds world wide" - Too Blue


Uh actually Mcdonald's makes more money than Tim Hortons. In fact they make more than Tim Horton's parent company (Wendy's).

Although you have to give it up for Tim Horton's as they are every where in Canada.

From Gregg Easterbrooke's Easterblogg july 2004:

But what about those wily Canadians? Surely they'd want global warming to convert their vast frozen land mass into highly desirable real estate. Not according to this analysis from the Service Canadien du Renseignement de Securite, Ottawa's equivalent to the CIA. It complains that Canada could become a magnet for an influx of environmental refugees driven northward by heat waves, drought, mega-hurricanes, and other sci-fi effects. Canada being Canada, this CIA-style report is posted on the Web. But then, as the home page of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service declares, it is "an organization with secrets to protect, not a secret organization." Presumably the agency's primary responsibility is guarding the formula for Tim Hortons donuts. For those who haven't been in Canada lately, there is a Tim Hortons outlet approximately every 500 feet, er, every 125 meters. Hortons has 2,300 stores in a nation of 32 million people, or one donut shop for every 13,900 Canadians. That's far more than Starbucks, which has 5,411 locations in the United States, or one per every 54,000 Americans. Tim Hortons donut shops are almost four times as common in Canada as Starbucks outlets in America! Just how many maple-glazed donuts can one nation eat, eh?

Not according to franchise stats I read in the Globe an Mail last year ... Tim Horton's is by far the biggest money maker of any franchise in Canada with 1/4 the stores ... that's a lot of $1.65 double doubles dude!

Aren't there 32 million people in Southern California alone?

Wow this thread sure got hijacked in a hurry.

Therefore, what?

Do you believe this?

Do you know what business McDonald's is in?

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Real estate. A McDonald's franchisee told his attorney (who works with me) that McDonald's makes most of their profits from the real estate that they own and lease to their franchisees instead of from their food.

Interesting.

Seriously. And it's *still* getting hijacked.

Just a little perspective regarding where money, resources, and national debate get focused. Most people who favor anti-terror policies seem to favor them because they "protect American lives", but while I think there are very good reasons for attacking terror, if the goal's life-protection, there may be other threats to consider. The extent of life lost due to the 9/11 tragedy seems tragically overblown.

IM(correct and not very)HO.

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I found the list thought provoking. Hence, two thoughts:

1) Perhaps, more than just protecting American lives, they favor anti-terror policies because they see them as protecting the American way of life, an institution whose importance and influence extends beyond our borders to much of the world. Our terrorist enemies want to create uncertainty and/or anarchy in order to force us to accede to their demands, either through fear or expediency (the cost/benefit analysis of increasingly draconian security measures, including suspension of certain civil liberties, can eventually lead to capitulation--a game many states play to varying degrees). Hence, it's not just the few thousand Americans that die tragically in terrorist attacks. It goes way beyond that. It's trust and confidence in the continued survival of a system and way of doing things that bring great benefit to Americans and the rest of world.

2) Many of the deaths you cited resulted from suicide or people choosing to participate in risky behavior (lung cancer, hypertension, illicit drug use, AIDS/HIV). One could also assume that large chunks of those that died from car accidents, murder, and drowning fall into this same category. Perhaps people see many of these tragedies as self-inflicted, hence they warrant less of the funding, resources, and the national debate (although one could argue that the national focus on the evils of tobacco, coupled with laws to counter the effects of second-hand smoke, have been far more effective than carpet-bombing ever could have been).