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tooblue 02-09-2008 02:09 AM

Christians Wrong About Heaven, Says Bishop
 
http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...710844,00.html

myboynoah 02-09-2008 03:36 AM

Thanks tooblue. It's odd, the more time passes, the more "Christianity" accepts the truths restored by Joseph Smith.

splitbamboo 02-11-2008 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by myboynoah (Post 183407)
Thanks tooblue. It's odd, the more time passes, the more "Christianity" accepts the truths restored by Joseph Smith.

I've wondered that myself. What has been the influence of LDS doctrine on the Christian population as a whole?

Has anybody looked at this idea from an academic standpoint?

pelagius 02-11-2008 06:35 PM

Most Mormons would like NT Wright (this is not a new statement by him either; it just the first time that Time magazine has noticed). However, it should be clear that he would have major disagreements with Mormon over points of doctrine. My prediction is that for Mormons he is going to be the next C.S. Lewis. I think he will start to see him quoted in General Conference over the next 20 years.

If you haven't done it before take a look at some of his sermons sometimes.

I like his 2005 Easter Vigil (I mentioned it in one of my lesson notes early last year on the guard):

http://meam-commemorationem.blogspot...-vigil-05.html

Archaea 02-11-2008 06:38 PM

I also think they'd like Ben Witherington III. He has a nice site.

pelagius 02-11-2008 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 184080)
I also think they'd like Ben Witherington III. He has a nice site.

Agreed. I think Witherington is a good example of Faithful scholarship. Witherington's biblical commentaries are worth buying. It would be really nice if instead of seeing Deseret Book offer Joel Osteen books (and I have nothing against Osteen except that I don't perceive a lot of depth) they promoted Wright and Witherington. Both of them offering thoughtful faithful voices from an evangelical perspective.

Archaea 02-11-2008 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pelagius (Post 184082)
Agreed. I think Witherington is a good example of Faithful scholarship. Witherington's biblical commentaries are worth buying. It would be really nice if instead of seeing Deseret Book offer Joel Olsteen books (and I have nothing against Olsteen except that I don't perceive a lot of depth) they promoted Wright and Witherington. Both of them offering thoughtful faithful voices from an evangelical perspective.

If we could have Witherington, Wright, Ehrman, Goodacre, the guy out of Oxford, and few others, it would make Deseret Book actually useful.

pelagius 02-11-2008 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 184084)
If we could have Witherington, Wright, Ehrman, Goodacre, the guy out of Oxford, and few others, it would make Deseret Book actually useful.

Let me add that I like Witherington's post on Hermeneutics on his blog from a while back:

http://benwitherington.blogspot.com/...xed-bible.html

ChinoCoug 02-11-2008 08:33 PM

bodily resurrection is in the Roman Creed. Why the hades don't traditional Christians accept it?

Archaea 02-11-2008 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pelagius (Post 184100)
Let me add that I like Witherington's post on Hermeneutics on his blog from a while back:

http://benwitherington.blogspot.com/...xed-bible.html



Excellent indeed.

He has lots of good stuff, but I liked this one:

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This is why I often offer the aphorism-- a text without a context is just a pretext for whatever you want it to mean.


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