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Archaea 08-06-2010 09:45 PM

Baseball is not hard work, it's boring.

Nonetheless, you ignored the stronger aspects of my arguments.

MikeWaters 08-06-2010 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 311777)
Baseball is not hard work, it's boring.

Nonetheless, you ignored the stronger aspects of my arguments.

Well, if baseball isn't hard work, that means PEDs matter less.

PEDs in cycling are huge, the difference between being in the peleton or not.

We see guys who make huge waves in the TDF, get busted for PEDs, and then when they come back after suspension, they amount to zero.

The point is the PEDs can literally make your career in cycling. The FRAUD FACTOR is much greater.

Archaea 08-06-2010 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 311778)
Well, if baseball isn't hard work, that means PEDs matter less.

PEDs in cycling are huge, the difference between being in the peleton or not.

We see guys who make huge waves in the TDF, get busted for PEDs, and then when they come back after suspension, they amount to zero.

The point is the PEDs can literally make your career in cycling. The FRAUD FACTOR is much greater.

Enhancers in baseball revolve around explosion and muscle mass.

Enhancers in cycling revolve around endurance and recovery from workouts. The truth nobody knows to what extent they are involved. All we have is rumor and innuendo. My belief is they make a 1 to 2 percent difference which may make a world of difference in terms of overall results. In baseball, in terms of muscle mass, they make an even greater difference.

MikeWaters 08-06-2010 11:12 PM

Please. Please. PLEASE do not suggest that PEDs are less of a problem in cycling than in baseball.

Because that is ridiculous.

Archaea 08-07-2010 12:47 AM

It is a great distinction.

First, you don't need the steroids to play baseball daily.

Second, given the demands placed upon cyclists PEDs are often necessary to survive.

MikeWaters 08-07-2010 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 311783)
Second, given the demands placed upon cyclists PEDs are often necessary to survive.

Please. That is ridiculous.

Archaea 08-07-2010 12:55 AM

Argument ad hominem.

MikeWaters 08-10-2010 03:30 AM

Here's a new one. You will be proud of this one. "overtrained athlete syndrome." However not as good as my all-time favorite: "vanishing twin syndrome."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/traini...ory?id=5449113

I wonder what syndrome Lance is going to have.

Archaea 08-10-2010 02:51 PM

innocence and egg on your face.

MikeWaters 09-17-2010 12:37 AM

the noose tightens.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...html?eref=sihp


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