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Archaea 07-18-2016 09:46 PM

Predictions for Tuesday?
 
I predict the Big XII will not expand and CB will go into a tizzy.

OTOH, I am terrible in the prognostication business, so if it turns out I am wrong, I can be happy. I am of course great at hedging.

A number of people are convinced a deal has been struck. Where have I heard that before?

BlueK 07-19-2016 03:31 PM

With the announcement coming out of the ACC today I think the Big 12 is dangerously close to being picked apart by the other P5 leagues. With only ten members, if the other P5 leagues all took one or two a piece, the Big 12 could quickly be stuck with less than six members, which means under NCAA rules it would instantly disband and there would be no league left to enforce the grant of rights the schools signed. The B12 could probably protect itself from that by adding two teams. But you're right they probably won't. As a group they're just too stupid.

ChinoCoug 07-19-2016 09:53 PM

Holy crap!!!!

BlueK 07-19-2016 10:00 PM

They will expand! They have given commissioner Bowlsby authorization to get the teams. This is essentially the same message the Pac 12 put out there years ago when they told Larry Scott to do that. All the national commentators saying it would be a definite no to expansion were wrong. Wow.

ChinoCoug 07-19-2016 10:23 PM

My life is just dandy right now. In multiple dimensions.

Archaea 07-19-2016 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueK (Post 321856)
They will expand! They have given commissioner Bowlsby authorization to get the teams. This is essentially the same message the Pac 12 put out there years ago when they told Larry Scott to do that. All the national commentators saying it would be a definite no to expansion were wrong. Wow.

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=40727260&nid...dates-like-byu

That is positive.

BlueK 07-20-2016 02:37 PM

The mainstream national media people were all pretty much universally wrong. They were lazy and not looking for or following their leads.


Several of the locally based media in Big 12 markets were right. They were following leads and doing some actual reporting.


Mixed bag on the non-traditional bloggers. Some were right. Others just didn't know anything or had no sources but were commenting anyway.

BlueK 07-20-2016 02:57 PM

cougarboard was pretty funny yesterday -- like one of the more extreme negative posters who was on a rampage calling everyone who was trying to listen in on the news conference, "a bunch of pathetic losers." I'm guessing he doesn't show up much for a while.

MikeWaters 07-21-2016 02:58 AM

poll of Big 12 football coaches.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...spn-poll-shows

Surprising that Houston is so heavily favored.

Archaea 07-21-2016 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 321862)
poll of Big 12 football coaches.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...spn-poll-shows

Surprising that Houston is so heavily favored.

Mostly non-Texas based schools. The Texas based schools wouldn't want to dilute the effectiveness of UH by adding them.

ChinoCoug 07-21-2016 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 321862)
poll of Big 12 football coaches.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...spn-poll-shows

Surprising that Houston is so heavily favored.

So the man behind the curtain who hates Mormons and is constantly stifling our progress at every corner gets smaller and smaller.

Some of presidents (Gee, Boren, the canned Starr) don't hate us.

At least half the coaches don't hate us.

BlueK 07-21-2016 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ChinoCoug (Post 321865)
So the man behind the curtain who hates Mormons and is constantly stifling our progress at every corner gets smaller and smaller.

Some of presidents (Gee, Boren, the canned Starr) don't hate us.

At least half the coaches don't hate us.

Who is the hater you are referring to? Chris Hill?

Commissioner Bowlsby on Mike and Mike this morning said geography isn't that big of a deal anymore like it may have been 25 years ago. He said electronic footprint matters now. Very good signs for BYU. The idea of bringing in a team that doesn't have most of its fanbase concentrated in one market is a plus for them. He could have said something totally different if the strengths BYU brings to the table aren't important to them.

Also encouraging is the statement Holmoe tweeted out immediately after the B12 announcement (within minutes) saying BYU is very interested. That was cued up ready to go. They clearly knew what was being discussed in the meetings and were sitting ready to make a positive statement on it. However you interpret the history of BYU and the Big 12, what is happening today looks completely different.

ChinoCoug 07-21-2016 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueK (Post 321866)
Who is the hater you are referring to? Chris Hill?

Commissioner Bowlsby on Mike and Mike this morning said geography isn't that big of a deal anymore like it may have been 25 years ago. He said electronic footprint matters now. Very good signs for BYU. The idea of bringing in a team that doesn't have most of its fanbase concentrated in one market is a plus for them. He could have said something totally different if the strengths BYU brings to the table aren't important to them.

Also encouraging is the statement Holmoe made immediately after the B12 announcement saying BYU is very interested. That was cued up ready to go. They clearly knew what was being discussed in the meetings and were sitting ready to make a positive statement on it. However you interpret the history of BYU and the Big 12, what is happening today looks completely different.

I'm talking about BYU's melodramatic persecution complex. Phantom hater.

BlueK 07-21-2016 03:19 PM

"If Big 12 presidents were to vote on the rest of a list right now, I'd be willing to bet it'd be BYU, then Cincinnati, and then some mix of Houston, Memphis, and UConn. But if your list doesn't start with BYU, crumple it up and try harder."

http://www.sbnation.com/college-foot...ce-realignment

MikeWaters 07-26-2016 11:56 PM

imagine if they add 4 and BYU isn't one of them.

I hope BYU is added in football AND basketball.

BlueK 07-28-2016 12:34 AM

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/...e92191482.html

MikeWaters 07-28-2016 01:38 AM

Imagine if the Big 12 expanded with 2 to 4 Pac-12 teams. Not sure what the financial ramifications are for a Pac-12 team exiting, but that would be a huge shocker. And BYU would be screwed, as I don't think even a desperate Pac takes BYU.

BlueK 07-28-2016 03:31 AM

http://www.cougarboard.com/board/mes...ml?id=16208156

MikeWaters 07-28-2016 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueK (Post 321872)

you think this is credible?

BlueK 07-28-2016 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 321873)
you think this is credible?

Don't know, but he's not the only one who has been saying this or something pretty similar today. And UH tweeted out that they have an announcement on Monday but didn't say what. It would make sense on several levels for the Big 12 to act much faster than what's been said publicly because there is no trust between the conferences. Take too long to decide and someone else may beat you to it or start talking to your own members before you have the chance to act. The P12 may think whatever it does about BYU, but they won't like the idea of having to share the SLC market with another P5 conference. But they don't have many options unless they make a run for Texas again, but that's unlikely with the LHN. I hope we get to stick it to the stupid utes and the arrogant jerks who run the P12.

MikeWaters 07-28-2016 04:21 AM

It would be sweet justice to be sitting in a prettier position than Utah.

Pac-12 might as well be in another country with all their PST games that start after 9pm CST.

I hardly watch any Pac-12 games.


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