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MikeWaters 10-25-2016 05:07 PM

statistical comparison of recent BYU QBs
 
This should give you an idea of how horrible Taysom Hill has been.

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Rk        Player        School        Conf        G        Cmp        Att        Pct        Yds        Y/A        AY/A        TD        Int        Rate        Att        Yds        Avg        TD       
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114        Taysom Hill        Brigham Young        Ind        8        157        269        58.4        1607        6        5.3        9        8        113.6        91        369        4.1        5        2016
57        Tanner Mangum*        Brigham Young        Ind        13        267        446        59.9        3377        7.6        7.6        23        10        136        62        -85        -1.4        2        2015
49        Christian Stewart*        Brigham Young        Ind        9        199        348        57.2        2621        7.5        7.8        25        9        139        82        163        2        4        2014
101        Taysom Hill*        Brigham Young        Ind        13        236        438        53.9        2938        6.7        6.1        19        14        118.1        246        1344        5.5        10        2013
92        Riley Nelson*        Brigham Young        Ind        10        181        308        58.8        2011        6.5        5.5        13        13        119.1        86        196        2.3        1        2012
17        Riley Nelson*        Brigham Young        Ind        12        116        202        57.4        1717        8.5        8.8        19        7        152.9        88        392        4.5        1        2011
100        Jake Heaps*        Brigham Young        MWC        13        219        383        57.2        2316        6        5.8        15        9        116.2        34        -100        -2.9        1        2010
4        Max Hall*        Brigham Young        MWC        13        275        409        67.2        3560        8.7        8.8        33        14        160.1        72        75        1        2        2009
11        Max Hall*        Brigham Young        MWC        13        330        477        69.2        3957        8.3        8.4        35        14        157.2        65        115        1.8        4        2008
31        Max Hall*        Brigham Young        MWC        13        298        496        60.1        3848        7.8        7.7        26        12        137.7        52        14        0.3        1        2007
2        John Beck*        Brigham Young        MWC        12        289        417        69.3        3885        9.3        10        32        8        169.1        50        -8        -0.2        6        2006


MikeWaters 10-25-2016 05:11 PM

Three seasons where the BYU QB was rated 100th or worse in QB rating:

Jake Heaps
Taysom Hill x 2

With Riley Nelson's last season nipping at their heels.

Yet Riley was hated and Taysom is beloved.

SeattleUte 10-25-2016 07:43 PM

I don't think the schedules are comparable. BYU's schedule has been brutal this year.

MikeWaters 10-25-2016 09:22 PM

His rating was the same in a previous year when the schedule was easier.

He is who he is.

I'm sure his rating will likely improve against the worse teams left on the schedule. A lot of that will be playing against a worse defensive line, having more rushing success, then having more opportunities for favorable matchups in the secondary.

He's averaging about 1 TD throw per game. Quarterback U my ass.

Archaea 10-25-2016 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 322488)
His rating was the same in a previous year when the schedule was easier.

He is who he is.

I'm sure his rating will likely improve against the worse teams left on the schedule. A lot of that will be playing against a worse defensive line, having more rushing success, then having more opportunities for favorable matchups in the secondary.

He's averaging about 1 TD throw per game. Quarterback U my ass.

Unless Tanner can't play, Taysom has been very mediocre and Ty has been mediocre as well. I would give the offensive staff a C- so far for the season, and the defensive staff a B-. Overall, a C. A C grade doesn't keep you employed for very long.

ChinoCoug 11-03-2016 09:30 PM

Someone on CB posted advanced statistics that controlled for defense difficulty and Taysom's ability to run. Tanner was still better by a substantial margin.

Mike is right.

MikeWaters 11-04-2016 01:37 AM

I saw that post a while ago. FINALLY now people on CB are starting to agree that Taysom sucks. I'm always ahead of the general fans. It's one of the curses of superior intelligence.

Archaea 11-04-2016 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 322536)
I saw that post a while ago. FINALLY now people on CB are starting to agree that Taysom sucks. I'm always ahead of the general fans. It's one of the curses of superior intelligence.

Being superior to the collective intelligence of CB is not much of an accomplishment. Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.

ChinoCoug 11-04-2016 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 322538)
Being superior to the collective intelligence of CB is not much of an accomplishment. Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.

There were people on CB saying Tanner should start from game 1.

Archaea 11-04-2016 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ChinoCoug (Post 322542)
There were people on CB saying Tanner should start from game 1.

Yes.

I did not know, though was doubtful, in light of Ty having seen the Spring and summer training. After the first game and the second game loss to Utah, I was convinced this team was going nowhere with Taysom.


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