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BlueK 09-08-2016 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 322040)
everyone wants to win, not everyone is willing to do what it takes to win. And that starts months and years before the actual game.

Bronco for years wasn't willing to change his approach to recruiting. In the 90s BYU routinely ranked in the 20s and 30s in recruiting class. It's gotten so bad since then that on CB they get excited now when we get ranked 60th. Some of it has to do with the BCS/P5 creating the brand of being a different "division" than the rest. That's hard to overcome. But I think most of it was Bronco just trying too hard to limit his recruiting efforts to the players he singled out as his type.

MikeWaters 09-09-2016 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueK (Post 322042)
Bronco for years wasn't willing to change his approach to recruiting. In the 90s BYU routinely ranked in the 20s and 30s in recruiting class. It's gotten so bad since then that on CB they get excited now when we get ranked 60th. Some of it has to do with the BCS/P5 creating the brand of being a different "division" than the rest. That's hard to overcome. But I think most of it was Bronco just trying too hard to limit his recruiting efforts to the players he singled out as his type.

I've been saying this for years.

ChinoCoug 09-09-2016 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueK (Post 322042)
Bronco for years wasn't willing to change his approach to recruiting. In the 90s BYU routinely ranked in the 20s and 30s in recruiting class. It's gotten so bad since then that on CB they get excited now when we get ranked 60th. Some of it has to do with the BCS/P5 creating the brand of being a different "division" than the rest. That's hard to overcome. But I think most of it was Bronco just trying too hard to limit his recruiting efforts to the players he singled out as his type.

Heaps/Apo/Stout was top 30.

mpfunk 09-12-2016 06:33 PM

Enjoyed the game because I certainly enjoyed the outcome of the game. I also am just a big fan of the rivalry game. I hate when it isn't played and I hope that it continues for a long time.

Sitake is going to do really good things for BYU if they let him. By let him, I'm saying that BYU is going to have to become content with winning ugly. He is going to have great defenses. He is going to prioritize talent being on defense.

It is hard to root against Sitake, but I will certainly find a way to do it.

I think Detmer has been awful through the first 2 games. Maybe he will be good, maybe he won't. I've found it interesting how much of a pass he has gotten the first couple of weeks.

ChinoCoug 09-12-2016 06:39 PM

Dumbest call of the night was made by Kwit kicking the FG.

I was praying he would do that.

4th and inches: about a 90%+ change you win.

Don't make it, BYU starts at their 6 and needs a TD.

Make the FG, and BYU starts at the ~25 and needs a TD.

Archaea 09-12-2016 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ChinoCoug (Post 322064)
Dumbest call of the night was made by Kwit kicking the FG.

I was praying he would do that.

4th and inches: about a 90%+ change you win.

Don't make it, BYU starts at their 6 and needs a TD.

Make the FG, and BYU starts at the ~25 and needs a TD.

Going for two was dumbest call. Tie the game up and win in overtime.

BlueK 09-12-2016 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 322067)
Going for two was dumbest call. Tie the game up and win in overtime.

I don't necessarily dislike the decision just because I think our defense was exhausted at that point after Utah's long drive. Normally I would agree with you on this but for this situation I think we had a better chance to execute one play than endure through one or more overtimes. The problem is they picked the wrong play. It would have been different if Jamaal hadn't been out I think because Utah would have had to respect his presence in the backfield at least.

ChinoCoug 09-12-2016 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 322067)
Going for two was dumbest call. Tie the game up and win in overtime.

Not even close. Jamaal out, Nacua out, McChesney out, DLine can't stop the run, Taysom not connecting.

Better chance to try to get 3 yards.

Archaea 09-12-2016 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ChinoCoug (Post 322070)
Not even close. Jamaal out, Nacua out, McChesney out, DLine can't stop the run, Taysom not connecting.

Better chance to try to get 3 yards.

Is Jamal out for the UCLA game?

ChinoCoug 09-12-2016 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mpfunk (Post 322063)
Enjoyed the game because I certainly enjoyed the outcome of the game. I also am just a big fan of the rivalry game. I hate when it isn't played and I hope that it continues for a long time.

Sitake is going to do really good things for BYU if they let him. By let him, I'm saying that BYU is going to have to become content with winning ugly. He is going to have great defenses. He is going to prioritize talent being on defense.

It is hard to root against Sitake, but I will certainly find a way to do it.

I think Detmer has been awful through the first 2 games. Maybe he will be good, maybe he won't. I've found it interesting how much of a pass he has gotten the first couple of weeks.

It's not Detmer, it's Taysom.


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