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MikeWaters 04-09-2008 10:44 PM

I support the protest of the olympic torch processions
 
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle3716291.ece

Note the many pro-China Chinese protestors.

Boy this is a massive embarrassment for the Chinese govt. and pro-Communist Chinese, shining a bright light on their human rights abuses.

It used to the that the GOP stood against communism. The GOP places business interests first, so there will be no protest from the GOP about anything China does (as long as isn't tarriffs or currency issues).

I can't decide if it is better to boycott the olympics, or to have all or many of our athletes symbolically protest the Chinese govt. while there (such as black gloves raised in the air, or black arm-bands, or some other public symbol).

TripletDaddy 04-09-2008 10:46 PM

It was reported a little bit ago that the Chinese Embassy in SF bussed over some pro-China demonstrators. Pathetic.

The San Francisco leg of this farcical torch relay has been ridiculous.

The IOC needs to stop the international portion of this torch relay because all this coverage is damaging the Olympic brand and generating absolutely NO goodwill.

MikeWaters 04-09-2008 10:48 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/...ics/index.html

It looks like every single House representative except one GOPer voted for this resolution supporting Tibet.

That republican is Ron Paul.

il Padrino Ute 04-09-2008 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 206688)
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/...ics/index.html

It looks like every single House representative except one GOPer voted for this resolution supporting Tibet.

That republican is Ron Paul.

It seems that the link in this post of yours above contradicts your comment in this post, eh?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeWaters
Note the many pro-China Chinese protestors.

Boy this is a massive embarrassment for the Chinese govt. and pro-Communist Chinese, shining a bright light on their human rights abuses.

It used to the that the GOP stood against communism. The GOP places business interests first, so there will be no protest from the GOP about anything China does (as long as isn't tarriffs or currency issues).

I can't decide if it is better to boycott the olympics, or to have all or many of our athletes symbolically protest the Chinese govt. while there (such as black gloves raised in the air, or black arm-bands, or some other public symbol).


MikeWaters 04-09-2008 10:55 PM

Yes, IPU it appears to on its face.

But the rubber does not hit the road in a non-binding resolution.

il Padrino Ute 04-09-2008 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 206690)
Yes, IPU it appears to on its face.

But the rubber does not hit the road in a non-binding resolution.

Fair enough.

As for your comment about boycotting the Olympics or having the athletes protest, I'd much rather see the athletes protest in some manner. I have a tough time accepting a punishment for the athletes on the Olympic team because of politics. The athletes haven't done anything but work hard to fulfill a dream of competing.

I say that because I remember thinking it was wrong when Carter called for a boycott of the '80 Olympic games. I think it would be more effective to embarrass the Communist regime on the world stage by seeing the athletes do something like wear a patch of the Tibetan flag.

SteelBlue 04-09-2008 11:24 PM

Boycotting the Olympics punishes nobody but athletes who have spent the past 4 years working their butts off.

JohnnyLingo 04-10-2008 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelBlue (Post 206703)
Boycotting the Olympics punishes nobody but athletes who have spent the past 4 years working their butts off.

Exactly. If you really want to help Tibet, messing with the AMERICAN torch bearers doesn't help much.

TripletDaddy 04-10-2008 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyLingo (Post 206744)
Exactly. If you really want to help Tibet, messing with the AMERICAN torch bearers doesn't help much.

Which nationality would be the best to mess with if the goal is to help Tibet?

JohnnyLingo 04-10-2008 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy (Post 206779)
Which nationality would be the best to mess with if the goal is to help Tibet?

Nitpick, nitpick, nitpick.

The point is that attacking the torch runners (and I disagree with those that did it in Paris) is a meaningless gesture.


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