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SeattleUte 08-16-2007 08:22 PM

Sacred cows of the establishment
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/16/bo...ks&oref=slogin

The link is to a review of a soon to be issued book jointly authored by a Harvard professor and a U of Chicago professor about the alleged clout of the Israeli lobby and how it powerfully nudges America to act against its own interests in myriad ways. I don't share their conclusions or beliefs, but the way academia is black balling them and banishng any discussion of their book is disgraceful. This subject shouldn't be offlimits for discussion at our great universities. We are, after all, mired in a war in the Middle East that a large majority of the American people now deeply regret, that we undertook in part because we perceived it was in the interest of Israel's increased security, and in the last election (in case you didn't notice) our president found himself with some very strange bedfellows such as Ed Koch among prominent liberal Jewish leaders.

MikeWaters 08-16-2007 08:30 PM

I get the impression that academia is actually more pro-Palestinian than the average American.

JohnnyLingo 08-16-2007 09:01 PM

Good times, SU. Implying a Jewish-controlled conspiracy in the U.S. government.

Never heard that one before.

creekster 08-16-2007 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 113495)
I get the impression that academia is actually more pro-Palestinian than the average American.


Which, if true, may be a possible result of the lobby they decry, I would guess.

Mindfulcoug 08-16-2007 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 113495)
I get the impression that academia is actually more pro-Palestinian than the average American.

or pro-jews actually. the people need to ger rid of all those wrong policies and start living in peace.

YOhio 08-16-2007 09:21 PM

Thanks for the article. Mearsheimer has done some interesting work.

I'm quite surprised academia has not embraced this article. Even at BYU most of the IR professors could be classified as pro-Palestinian. I had one IR prof who would consistently make the argument that Israel was a strategic liability to the United States. Coincidently, he was the prof that introduced me to Mearsheimer and he was married to a Palistinian.

YOhio 08-16-2007 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mindfulcoug (Post 113515)
or pro-jews actually. the people need to ger rid of all those wrong policies and start living in peace.

Do you really think American academia is "pro-jew"?

Mindfulcoug 08-16-2007 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by YOhio (Post 113517)
Do you really think American academia is "pro-jew"?

i really dont see any disparity between pro-jews and pro-palestinians ,they are both people who are defending the human being's birth right "to live in peace".but i do see differences between zionists and pro-jews .

MikeWaters 08-16-2007 09:45 PM

I a Mormon zionist. If a few Missourians find themselves selling at fire-sale prices, well, so be it.

Mindfulcoug 08-16-2007 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 113519)
I a Mormon zionist. If a few Missourians find themselves selling at fire-sale prices, well, so be it.

A MikeWaters sort of zionist?? i suppose its nothing but fun to deal with!


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