not looking good for Armstrong
 

who knows. Federal investigations in this politically motivated atmosphere don't lead to truth. They often lead to witch hunts.

The tactic is to scare somebody into admitting something. It doesn't make it true.

Why are we investigating the usage of enhancements? Why would this be a necessary "crime"?

What a waste of time.

Be part of a federal investigation and you'll know it doesn't mean you're getting the truth. People lie to get the investigators off their backs. It's a normal deflective technique.

When you are a lowly domestique, and the feds come calling with subpoenoes and threaten perjury, the incentives suddenly become in favor of telling the truth.

Regarding Lance doping, there has been so much smoke for so long, that only a fool would be surprised to find out he doped. After all, his biggest rivals all doped. And he beat them all.

What I want to know is how he doped.

You're foolish if you believe being scared makes you tell the truth.

Does a man tortured tell the truth? A federal investigation is as close to torture as the average man will encounter. It's not thoughtful, but provocative, with "you give us this guy or you're dead" sort of event.

I'm not saying Lance didn't do it. I am saying, he passed the rules as they were enforced back then, so now it shouldn't matter. If we went back and examined many sports heroes we would be dismayed at their conduct. This witch hunt is of no value.

Whether Lance is a fraud or not is a big deal in the sports world.

His story of triumph over cancer to win a record number of tours.

Maybe he will be credited with legitimizing doping, in the sense that it was merely "the doping era", kind of like A. Rod.

Lance is not a fraud. He won under the rules and enforcement in place.

Is it possible or likely that he doped? Most definitely. But what has happened that the most tested athlete of our time, who never failed a test, isn't entitled to any presumptions regarding his innocence but is tried in the arena of public opinion based upon partial leaks of persons who admit lying and cheating themselves?

Is that the standard by which you wish to operate?

The fact is, he must have limited his doping to extremely regimented training periods in order to ensure he'd pass the testing in place. And others who were determined to defeat him pushed themselves past the limits.

But what if, just for an instance, he was entirely clean? How should we feel regarding his behavior and conduct?

To me, it's a witch hunt which has been going on for a long time, and witch hunts grow stale after a while.

Do we re-open Greg Lemond, who was rumored, at least in Reno, to have doped in the 1989 Tour?

Do we chase down Eddie?

Where do we stop?

If Lance broke laws, then that's the reason for the federal investigation.

It looks like there will be many, many sources pointing to Lance as doping.

Lance the doper and liar. And cancer survivor. It will be interesting how that plays out.

Disagree.

Do you wish to be federally investigated for driving above the speed limit?

Do you wish for your work to be federally audited?

Many persons inadvertently violate some miscellaneous law. And what meaningful law exists against some sort of sports enhancing doping?

You're presuming the admitted liars are now telling the truth. Why?

Because they've been subjected to the equivalence of legal torture?

I am prepared to be disappointed, but hoping he looks good in the end.

This looks more and more like a typical witchhunt, where a conviction will be manufactured, or at least an indictment.

Look at this charge,


[QUOTE]Novitzky, the lead investigator in the Bay Area Laboratory Co-operative steroids case, is trying to determine if Armstrong, his teammates, the owners or managers of his former defraud their sponsors? Huh, winning is what the sponsors wanted.

Stuff like this are reasons to hate prosecutors.

Jones and the track coach got a conviction for lying.

Did Clinton get anything for lying? This investigation is ridiculous.

Oh so suddenly you don't care about Trek. Nice.