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Archaea 04-21-2008 01:57 AM

Look at John 3:5-9 and John 6:16-18
 
Do you think any parallels are intended?

Never thought about it this way.

Quote:

6:16 ὡς δὲ ὀψία ἐγένετο κατέβησαν οἱ μαθηταὶ αὐτοῦ ἐπὶ τὴν θάλασσαν 17 καὶ ἐμβάντες εἰς πλοῖον ἤρχοντο πέραν τῆς θαλάσσης εἰς Καφαρναούμ καὶ σκοτία ἤδη ἐγεγόνει καὶ οὔπω ἐληλύθει πρὸς αὐτοὺς ὁ Ἰησοῦς 18 ἥ τε θάλασσα ἀνέμου μεγάλου πνέοντος διεγείρετο

John 3:5-9

ἀπεκρίθη Ἰησοῦς ἀμὴν ἀμὴν λέγω σοι ἐὰν μή τις γεννηθῇ ἐξ ὕδατος καὶ πνεύματος οὐ δύναται εἰσελθεῖν εἰς τὴν βασιλείαν τοῦ θεοῦ 6 τὸ γεγεννημένον ἐκ τῆς σαρκὸς σάρξ ἐστιν καὶ τὸ γεγεννημένον ἐκ τοῦ πνεύματος πνεῦμά ἐστιν 7 μὴ θαυμάσῃς ὅτι εἶπόν σοι δεῖ ὑμᾶς γεννηθῆναι ἄνωθεν 8 τὸ πνεῦμα ὅπου θέλει πνεῖ καὶ τὴν φωνὴν αὐτοῦ ἀκούεις ἀλλ' οὐκ οἶδας πόθεν ἔρχεται καὶ ποῦ ὑπάγει οὕτως ἐστὶν πᾶς ὁ γεγεννημένος ἐκ τοῦ πνεύματος

All-American 04-21-2008 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 210878)
Do you think any parallels are intended?

Never thought about it this way.

I'm not sure I see what you're seeing.

BarbaraGordon 04-21-2008 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by All-American (Post 210884)
I'm not sure I see what you're seeing.

hint: it's a bunch of squiggles.

All-American 04-21-2008 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon (Post 210885)
hint: it's a bunch of squiggles.

Oh, I see it now. They're both written in Greek. Silly me.

SeattleUte 04-21-2008 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 210878)
Do you think any parallels are intended?

Never thought about it this way.

Woah! That's heavy. I never saw it until now. Nice find, Arch. I think you have the thesis for your magnum opus. It could be momentus.

SteelBlue 04-21-2008 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon (Post 210885)
hint: it's a bunch of squiggles.

Barbara you're killing me tonight.

Archaea 04-21-2008 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by All-American (Post 210884)
I'm not sure I see what you're seeing.

In the latter verses we see the master on the water with the wind blowing and controlling.

In former, we see "wind" which lists to and fro. I'm developing it, as it's barely coming to me.

It might be a reach. The word for wind is not the same but the word for blow in the chapter six is the same. I wonder if there isn't some purposeful tie-in and maybe not.

The others are mocking, so probably not.

Archaea 04-21-2008 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte (Post 210892)
Woah! That's heavy. I never saw it until now. Nice find, Arch. I think you have the thesis for your magnum opus. It could be momentus.

Kai su teknon.

Archaea 04-21-2008 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by All-American (Post 210884)
I'm not sure I see what you're seeing.

Oh after rereading it, I didn't put enough of Chapter 6, my bad.

Cali Coug 04-21-2008 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 210988)
Oh after rereading it, I didn't put enough of Chapter 6, my bad.

This thread blows. I can't say that in Greek.

;)


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