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MikeWaters 01-27-2008 08:57 PM

Church does not favor illegal imm. crackdown
 
http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8062989?source=rss

I wonder how this would play on CB.

BYU71 01-27-2008 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 178557)
http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8062989?source=rss

I wonder how this would play on CB.

I can't say I am happy about this, but I am not real upset.

I personally find this compassion and ability to look the other way when it comes to a law of the land and yet are so strict in how they handle BYU.

Can we all admit the HC at BYU is more about controlling students than it is about morals and discipline.

MikeWaters 01-27-2008 09:32 PM

Stop hijacking my thread!!!

They have time to explain this, but can't explain blacks and the priesthood.

BYU71 01-27-2008 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 178570)
Stop hijacking my thread!!!

They have time to explain this, but can't explain blacks and the priesthood.

Sorry, I didn't realize this was a thread to rehash the black and priesthood thing. I did post about it, immigrants on CB, but it seems no one wants to touch it.

Maybe they realize it is a thread about blacks and the priesthood which I didn't recognize.

Cali Coug 01-27-2008 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 178557)
http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8062989?source=rss

I wonder how this would play on CB.

I agree with them completely. Illegal immigration needs a solution, but compassion can't be thrown out the window either as many Republicans urge.

il Padrino Ute 01-27-2008 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug (Post 178578)
I agree with them completely. Illegal immigration needs a solution, but compassion can't be thrown out the window either as many Republicans urge.

I'm not saying to deport all the illegals, but how does requiring people to obey the law lack compassion?

TripletDaddy 01-27-2008 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute (Post 178579)
I'm not saying to deport all the illegals, but how does requiring people to obey the law lack compassion?

Illegal immigration is not about obeying the law. It is about figuring out what to do with those that are already here and obeying the law.

A common scenario in the illegal immigration debate: couple comes over the border illegally. They live in the US for years.....over a decade. In that time, both mother and father have 2 children in the states. The kids go to elementary school and are now in the junior high school. The kids are good kids and the parents just want the kids to go to college and get a good job. The parents do not pay income taxes, but nor will they be eligible for social security or welfare when they are older. They do pay sales tax. During their time here, they commit no crimes and basically are low key residents in their community. The kids are entrenched, have friends, speak English, and are normal junior high school kids.

IPU, so you are saying that in your BEST analysis, the most important issue, the most glaring problem here, is that 12 years ago, 2 people crossed the border illegally and so we must "obey the law" and kick them out? Uproot them, separate them from their kids, or force their kids, US citizens, to move to sub-standard living conditions? This is about obeying the law? Seriously?

Jeff Lebowski 01-27-2008 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 178557)
http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8062989?source=rss

I wonder how this would play on CB.

It's a pity you don't post there anymore. This kind of stuff was the basis of some of your best work.

il Padrino Ute 01-27-2008 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy (Post 178594)
Illegal immigration is not about obeying the law. It is about figuring out what to do with those that are already here and obeying the law.

A common scenario in the illegal immigration debate: couple comes over the border illegally. They live in the US for years.....over a decade. In that time, both mother and father have 2 children in the states. The kids go to elementary school and are now in the junior high school. The kids are good kids and the parents just want the kids to go to college and get a good job. The parents do not pay income taxes, but nor will they be eligible for social security or welfare when they are older. They do pay sales tax. During their time here, they commit no crimes and basically are low key residents in their community. The kids are entrenched, have friends, speak English, and are normal junior high school kids.

IPU, so you are saying that in your BEST analysis, the most important issue, the most glaring problem here, is that 12 years ago, 2 people crossed the border illegally and so we must "obey the law" and kick them out? Uproot them, separate them from their kids, or force their kids, US citizens, to move to sub-standard living conditions? This is about obeying the law? Seriously?

Notice I didn't say that I support deporting all the illegals. I think we should work with the law abiding illegals to do something to help them gain legal status.

I'm just trying to get Cali to explain his comment that many Repubs don't want to be compassionate. He made the accusation so I'm calling him out and the best way to get a liberal like him to explain himself is to make a comment like I did.

Tex 01-27-2008 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug (Post 178578)
I agree with them completely. Illegal immigration needs a solution, but compassion can't be thrown out the window either as many Republicans urge.

Agreed. We should welcome all illegals into the country, especially the violent criminal types, as many Democrats urge. Compassion.


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