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il Padrino Ute 09-11-2007 02:33 AM

A few questions for the Democrats on the board..
 
What are your thoughts about Rep. Tom Lantos?

How do you feel that he told General Petraeus that he wasn't going to believe the report that Petraeus had yet to give?

non sequitur 09-11-2007 03:36 AM

Let me ask you this: If things were going badly, do you think there is any way in hell that he would say as much? I'm inclined to believe that he is going to say anything that his commander in chief wants him to say.

Indy Coug 09-11-2007 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by non sequitur (Post 122126)
Let me ask you this: If things were going badly, do you think there is any way in hell that he would say as much? I'm inclined to believe that he is going to say anything that his commander in chief wants him to say.

I think there are enough outside sources (including several notable Democrats) that have witnessed the progress being made in Iraq to substantiate Petraeus' testimony as being legitimate and not the regurgitated spin fed to him by the Oval Office.

il Padrino Ute 09-11-2007 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by non sequitur (Post 122126)
Let me ask you this: If things were going badly, do you think there is any way in hell that he would say as much? I'm inclined to believe that he is going to say anything that his commander in chief wants him to say.

Petreaus said that he wrote the report himself and that it was not written by the White House.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on that one.

Still, what Lantos did was out of line, even for a bleeding heart.

YOhio 09-11-2007 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by non sequitur (Post 122126)
I'm inclined to believe that he is going to say anything that his commander in chief wants him to say.

He's a four-star general. One of 190 in our nations history. Give him a little credit.

non sequitur 09-11-2007 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by YOhio (Post 122139)
He's a four-star general. One of 190 in our nations history. Give him a little credit.

Wasn't Westmoreland a four-star general?

Detroitdad 09-11-2007 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute (Post 122135)
Petreaus said that he wrote the report himself and that it was not written by the White House.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on that one.

Still, what Lantos did was out of line, even for a bleeding heart.

Lantos is a bit of a loose cannon. I don't endorse what he said.

il Padrino Ute 09-11-2007 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Detroitdad (Post 122167)
Lantos is a bit of a loose cannon. I don't endorse what he said.

I didn't think you or any others here would. I was just curious. I asked this on utefans and the dems/liberals sent me nasty boardmails praising Lantos and bashing Petraeus. Moveon.org and daily kos kind of hate.

Tex 09-11-2007 06:34 PM

Interesting editorial on this in the WSJ:

Quote:

Important as was yesterday's appearance before Congress by General David Petraeus, the events leading up to his testimony may have been more significant. Members of the Democratic leadership and their supporters have now normalized the practice of accusing their opponents of lying. If other members of the Democratic Party don't move quickly to repudiate this turn, the ability of the U.S. political system to function will be impaired in a way no one would wish for.

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As General Petraeus finished his statement yesterday, Senator Chris Dodd's Presidential campaign spammed an email about "the accuracy" of the report: "The fact that there are questions about General Petraeus's report is not surprising given that it was brought to you by this White House." Thus in Mr. Dodd's view, General Petraeus, returned from the Iraq battlefield, is a complicit ventriloquist's dummy.

Can this really be the new standard of political rhetoric across the Democratic Party?
Petraeus was unanimously confirmed for his position, by the way.

But don't question their patriotism. They support the troops.

http://opinionjournal.com/editorial/...l?id=110010587

BYU71 09-11-2007 07:23 PM

Has any Democrat denounced or even stated their disagreement with the move-on .org ad in the paper yesterday.

The democratic party isn't what it used to be when my Dad and I were democrats.


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