Another cycling opportunity, Tour de Tucson Nov. 19
 

It gives nifty stuff to those who finish the 109 miler under five hours.

Any takers?

Lots here in Vegas do it.

The winners do it in about 4 hours 19 minutes.

Wow, under 5 hours is tough if there's any kind of climbing involved. Do you generally finish your centuries in under 5 hours Archaea?

My dad and I just did the HHH century (miles, not km) in 4hr 53min.

My dad is 56 and had one ride over 30 miles this entire season. I pulled much of the last 20 miles (instead of being in a train) because my dad couldn't hold my wheel when I was on other people's wheels. So that put a significant cramp into my own time.

But I was esp. proud of my dad.

Note: this course was very flat.

Tucson has one hill
 

and otherwise is flat.

I generally finish with my friends, who are mostly the go slow type people, but on occasion I can finish in the 4:40 range.

It depends upon the rhythm and how strong your group is.

The least amount of climb I've ever had in a century was 4500 ft. Most are in the 7-8000 foot range which is why I expressed amazement that you are finishing that fast. I've never tried a flat one, but I bet it would be fun to get a few guys together and see how fast you could get it done working together.

there's no comparison
 

hilly ones, the pacelines break up

on flat ones, you fly.