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Tex 10-29-2008 06:00 PM

The Obama Judiciary
 
I really don't understand why Obama's potential influence hasn't gotten more attention this cycle. He has the potential to pick probably 2-4 of the next SCOTUS judges, to say nothing of lower federal courts. This is usually a winning issue for conservatives.

Steven Calabresi has an article describing a possible picture of the Obama judiciary:

- a federal constitutional right to welfare
- a federal constitutional mandate of affirmative action wherever there are racial disparities, without regard to proof of discriminatory intent
- a right for government-financed abortions through the third trimester of pregnancy
- the abolition of capital punishment and the mass freeing of criminal defendants
- ruinous shareholder suits against corporate officers and directors
- approval of huge punitive damage awards, like those imposed against tobacco companies, against many legitimate businesses such as those selling fattening food

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1225...html#printMode

BarbaraGordon 10-29-2008 06:02 PM

you really think Obama will appoint activists who will forward his agenda from the bench?

Cali Coug 10-29-2008 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex (Post 286070)
I really don't understand why Obama's potential influence hasn't gotten more attention this cycle. He has the potential to pick probably 2-4 of the next SCOTUS judges, to say nothing of lower federal courts. This is usually a winning issue for conservatives.

Steven Calabresi has an article describing a possible picture of the Obama judiciary:

- a federal constitutional right to welfare
- a federal constitutional mandate of affirmative action wherever there are racial disparities, without regard to proof of discriminatory intent
- a right for government-financed abortions through the third trimester of pregnancy
- the abolition of capital punishment and the mass freeing of criminal defendants
- ruinous shareholder suits against corporate officers and directors
- approval of huge punitive damage awards, like those imposed against tobacco companies, against many legitimate businesses such as those selling fattening food

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1225...html#printMode

Don't forget the almost certain requirement that everyone wear red and learn Russian.

BarbaraGordon 10-29-2008 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug (Post 286073)
Don't forget the almost certain requirement that everyone wear red and learn Russian.

I heard something about the boyscouts becoming a movement to further gay pride.

Tex 10-29-2008 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon (Post 286072)
you really think Obama will appoint activists who will forward his agenda from the bench?

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Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon (Post 286075)
I heard something about the boyscouts becoming a movement to further gay pride.

We were one vote away from forcing the Boy Scouts to permit gay scoutmasters. You tell me.

Cali Coug 10-29-2008 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex (Post 286084)
We were one vote away from forcing the Boy Scouts to permit gay scoutmasters. You tell me.

And then requiring those scoutmasters to have sex with the scouts. I know! Can you believe it?

I think Obama has already caught the gay. Is there no cure?

Ma'ake 10-29-2008 07:07 PM

Seriously, which conservative judges are likely to retire?

BarbaraGordon 10-29-2008 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ma'ake (Post 286158)
Seriously, which conservative judges are likely to retire?

For conservative voters, Ma-ake, it doesn't matter which Justice retires. It's about his replacement.

Assume Obama is president.

Now say a liberal retires. With Obama as president you're missing out on the chance to replace the liberal with a conservative and create a conservative court.

If a conservative retires, you risk losing a conservative voice and creating a liberal court.

If Kennedy retires, you risk losing your only swing vote and creating a liberal court.

This is, of course, assuming that Obama appoints liberals, which does not seem entirely unreasonable.

Tex 10-29-2008 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug (Post 286143)
And then requiring those scoutmasters to have sex with the scouts. I know! Can you believe it?

I think Obama has already caught the gay. Is there no cure?

Dale is fortunate you were not arguing the case for him, or he would've lost 9-0 instead of 5-4.

Ma'ake 10-29-2008 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon (Post 286192)
For conservative voters, Ma-ake, it doesn't matter which Justice retires. It's about his replacement.

Assume Obama is president.

Now say a liberal retires. With Obama as president you're missing out on the chance to replace the liberal with a conservative and create a conservative court.

If a conservative retires, you risk losing a conservative voice and creating a liberal court.

If Kennedy retires, you risk losing your only swing vote and creating a liberal court.

This is, of course, assuming that Obama appoints liberals, which does not seem entirely unreasonable.

So if Stevens retires (fairly likely, he's been hanging on, patiently), Obama appoints a liberal, no real change in the makeup of the court, right? The big change from a conservative point of view is if Kennedy or one of the Cons quits or dies. Otherwise, why would they be bitching? Because the train to stack the court with right wing ideologues is slowed?


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