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MikeWaters 06-23-2009 12:21 PM

Iran: "We murdered your son, you owe us $3,000 for the bullet we used."
 
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124571865270639351.html

Iran is full of vigilante goons who receive funds from the corrupt theocratic state.

I hope someone has the pleasure of wiping Ahmadinejad's sneer from his face. Or at least permanently showcasing it on the end of a pole.

il Padrino Ute 06-23-2009 10:42 PM

I'm still waiting for the Great Messiah of Politics to tell us how to resolve this problem. His "tough" talk - tough if you're a wimp - sounds like he's more on the side of the oppressors rather than the oppressed.

Cali Coug 06-23-2009 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute (Post 306042)
I'm still waiting for the Great Messiah of Politics to tell us how to resolve this problem. His "tough" talk - tough if you're a wimp - sounds like he's more on the side of the oppressors rather than the oppressed.

I don't think you understand the fine line he must walk here at all.

You tell us, Il Pad, what should Obama say to the Iranians right now? What should he do that he isn't doing?

MikeWaters 06-23-2009 11:35 PM

Obama could have done a little better with surrogates expounding on freedom and values, etc.

However, I do think it would be a mistake for Obama to give ammo to those crazy Ayatollahs who claim this is all an American conspiracy anyway.

Archaea 06-23-2009 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 306044)
Obama could have done a little better with surrogates expounding on freedom and values, etc.

However, I do think it would be a mistake for Obama to give ammo to those crazy Ayatollahs who claim this is all an American conspiracy anyway.

I agree with deferring to surrogates and that he can't fuel the mullahs. There is not much one can do except to sit on the sidelines right now and hope the power of the Iranian peoples can prevail against their oppressors. I'm not hopeful as the Chinese successfully suppressed democracy.

MikeWaters 06-24-2009 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Archaea (Post 306045)
I agree with deferring to surrogates and that he can't fuel the mullahs. There is not much one can do except to sit on the sidelines right now and hope the power of the Iranian peoples can prevail against their oppressors. I'm not hopeful as the Chinese successfully suppressed democracy.

when you are a heartless bastard that can kill women and children because you think God has ordained your power (hmm, what does that sound like?), it's not that hard to maintain power against the unarmed masses.

Sprinkle in 100 million small arms among the populace (and not just among the Basij fighters like now), and then you can start to talk the R word.

Archaea 06-24-2009 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters (Post 306046)
when you are a heartless bastard that can kill women and children because you think God has ordained your power (hmm, what does that sound like?), it's not that hard to maintain power against the unarmed masses.

Sprinkle in 100 million small arms among the populace (and not just among the Basij fighters like now), and then you can start to talk the R word.

Fearless people can be brutally butchered and still the world can only wait.

Neda had said, let them hit me. Now she is brutally shot in the chest. Iran's legitimacy, if it ever had any died with Neda.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/...ile/index.html

May her leaders rot in hell.

il Padrino Ute 06-24-2009 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug (Post 306043)
I don't think you understand the fine line he must walk here at all.

You tell us, Il Pad, what should Obama say to the Iranians right now? What should he do that he isn't doing?

What fine line?

He should denounce what is happening. It ain't that hard, unless you're an appeaser.

ChinoCoug 06-25-2009 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute (Post 306050)
What fine line?

He should denounce what is happening. It ain't that hard, unless you're an appeaser.

You mean like this?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090623/...pr_wh/us_obama

il Padrino Ute 06-25-2009 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ChinoCoug (Post 306061)

That's a meager start.


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