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Forum: Religion 08-27-2008, 03:29 PM
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Posted By ERCougar
Absolutely, completely, totally wrong and this...

Absolutely, completely, totally wrong and this perfectly illustrates my point. The consequence of adultery is excommunication? Really? I think it goes far deeper than that.

Even you, whose...
Forum: Religion 08-27-2008, 12:11 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 10,124
Posted By ERCougar
I think I'll go ahead and disagree with you and...

I think I'll go ahead and disagree with you and state that God is the only one who can really judge someone.

But nice play of the child-abuser card. Where do we go next? Rapists? Hitler? Makes...
Forum: Religion 08-27-2008, 11:58 AM
Replies: 134
Views: 10,124
Posted By ERCougar
What exactly does it represent?

What exactly does it represent?
Forum: Religion 08-27-2008, 03:27 AM
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Posted By ERCougar
http://www.amazon.com/Stages-Faith-Psychology-Huma...

http://www.amazon.com/Stages-Faith-Psychology-Human-Development/dp/0060628669/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1219807481&sr=1-1

Interesting read that SIEQ suggested a few months ago. Written...
Forum: Religion 08-27-2008, 01:59 AM
Replies: 134
Views: 10,124
Posted By ERCougar
I'm with Santos on this one. Sorry for the...

I'm with Santos on this one. Sorry for the string of replies but this is an issue that has touched my life on multiple occasions. I posted on this before: ...
Forum: Religion 08-27-2008, 01:52 AM
Replies: 134
Views: 10,124
Posted By ERCougar
Sorry...I don't believe this. I don't doubt...

Sorry...I don't believe this. I don't doubt their intentions to sincerely help the person, but I don't believe in a God who turns his back on a sinner who wants to be part of his Church. We'll...
Forum: Religion 08-27-2008, 01:47 AM
Replies: 134
Views: 10,124
Posted By ERCougar
I still don't think you have to kick them out of...

I still don't think you have to kick them out of the church--just keep them out of certain positions. This isn't that difficult, and is necessary even when they are excommunicated (in order to...
Forum: Religion 08-27-2008, 01:43 AM
Replies: 134
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Posted By ERCougar
1) I don't think it helps the sinner repent. ...

1) I don't think it helps the sinner repent. It's certainly not a necessary step to help the sinner repent.
2) I'd love to hear another reason (out of the "plenty") to formally sever the ties...
Forum: Religion 08-27-2008, 01:41 AM
Replies: 134
Views: 10,124
Posted By ERCougar
Why are men and women treated differently? This...

Why are men and women treated differently? This is not the first time I've seen this. In fact, I can't think of a single case of a woman being excommunicated.

Case 2 also illustrates the...
Forum: Religion 08-27-2008, 01:38 AM
Replies: 134
Views: 10,124
Posted By ERCougar
I'm glad that the threat of excommunication is...

I'm glad that the threat of excommunication is the only thing keeping you from "letting the good times roll". Sounds like a healthy spirituality to me.
Forum: Religion 08-27-2008, 01:35 AM
Replies: 134
Views: 10,124
Posted By ERCougar
So I guess you're implying that this decision to...

So I guess you're implying that this decision to allow him back wasn't inspired? Interesting. I didn't think these courts made mistakes.

More evidence that this is a process best left between...
Forum: Religion 08-27-2008, 01:34 AM
Replies: 134
Views: 10,124
Posted By ERCougar
Actually, it's the men in the church court who...

Actually, it's the men in the church court who are attempting to determine level of repentance and degree of punishment. I would rather they stay out of it and if a person wants back in, leave it to...
Forum: Religion 08-25-2008, 09:55 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 10,124
Posted By ERCougar
Agreed. But I don't see a purpose to...

Agreed. But I don't see a purpose to excommunicating a repentant sinner.
Forum: Religion 08-25-2008, 09:53 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 10,124
Posted By ERCougar
Ah, the child abuse card. Useful in any...

Ah, the child abuse card. Useful in any argument, from excommunication to capital punishment. You can't advocate for anything but public flogging, drawing and quartering, without looking like...
Forum: Religion 08-25-2008, 04:05 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 10,124
Posted By ERCougar
I think I agree with you. I don't agree with the...

I think I agree with you. I don't agree with the thought that it's the leader's job to show there are consequences to bad behavior (but I don't think that's your personal opinion). The real...
Forum: Religion 08-25-2008, 03:48 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 10,124
Posted By ERCougar
I'm wondering what you mean by "church PR". Does...

I'm wondering what you mean by "church PR". Does it mean that by "punishing" members in the church by excommunication, we'll discourage others from doing the same thing? I don't think that works.
Forum: Religion 08-25-2008, 03:27 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 10,124
Posted By ERCougar
If the only thing keeping your pants on is your...

If the only thing keeping your pants on is your membership in the church, your'e not gonna make it too long.

Still doesn't make sense.
Forum: Religion 08-25-2008, 03:17 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 10,124
Posted By ERCougar
Agreed. I don't think it helps the Church's...

Agreed. I don't think it helps the Church's image at all to excommunicate someone who made a mistake.
Forum: Religion 08-25-2008, 03:13 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 10,124
Posted By ERCougar
By the way, I think there's almost never a reason...

By the way, I think there's almost never a reason to excommunicate somone. The two exceptions I can think of is: 1) No desire for repentance or change and 2) public profile. I'm even doubtful on 2)...
Forum: Religion 08-25-2008, 03:07 PM
Replies: 134
Views: 10,124
Posted By ERCougar
There's ALWAYS a question whether he will be...

There's ALWAYS a question whether he will be exed. His public position makes it a little more likely but when none of us know the details, we can't know how things will go down. I've been surprised...
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