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Forum: Religion 02-28-2008, 10:25 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 1,037
Posted By aaronshaf
It seems like some Mormons are in denial over the...

It seems like some Mormons are in denial over the reality that Mormonism teaches we are here to, among other things, prove our personal worthiness and "merit eternal life".
Forum: Religion 01-31-2008, 10:57 PM
Replies: 70
Views: 8,241
Posted By aaronshaf
Here is the context: ...

Here is the context:

http://scripturesbeta.byu.edu/jod/jodhtml.php?vol=20&disc=04

Achaea, it sounds like you haven't taken the time to understand basic mainstream evangelical doctrine on grace...
Forum: Religion 01-31-2008, 03:47 PM
Replies: 70
Views: 8,241
Posted By aaronshaf
Archaea, would you like to take a stab at...

Archaea, would you like to take a stab at explaining how the following quote could possibly ever be theologically justified by any sort of context?



If you can't, just keep insulating.
Forum: Religion 01-31-2008, 03:45 PM
Replies: 70
Views: 8,241
Posted By aaronshaf
I don't think Mormons will get very far on this...

I don't think Mormons will get very far on this issue until they stop seeing it as an issue of "emphasis" and start seeing it as an issue of how grace (or merit or "worthiness") systematically fits...
Forum: Religion 01-31-2008, 03:43 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 1,562
Posted By aaronshaf
Branding the harshest critics of one's own...

Branding the harshest critics of one's own religious group as hateful to ironically demonize them reminds me a lot of the way Scientology responds to their critics.

If you can't seriously interact...
Forum: Religion 01-31-2008, 03:34 PM
Replies: 70
Views: 8,241
Posted By aaronshaf
I know it's dangerous to quote Mormon leaders /...

I know it's dangerous to quote Mormon leaders / authoritative literature in these quarters, but...
Forum: Religion 01-31-2008, 03:25 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 1,562
Posted By aaronshaf
These kinds of statements reflect a lack of...

These kinds of statements reflect a lack of genuine effort to understand the core evangelical Christian worldview which drives ministries like IRR.
Forum: Religion 01-26-2008, 06:29 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 2,352
Posted By aaronshaf
Like I said, "Even with Mormonism's doctrine of...

Like I said, "Even with Mormonism's doctrine of necessary gracious opportunity and necessary gracious assistance, it is still a relentless merit system."

Gracious assistance via prevenient grace...
Forum: Religion 01-24-2008, 05:30 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 2,352
Posted By aaronshaf
I find this kind of language really unhelpful......

I find this kind of language really unhelpful... sometimes even shallow, because it misses a big issue: In what sense are they necessary? Are works simply necessary as an evidence of the authenticity...
Forum: Religion 01-24-2008, 03:43 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 2,352
Posted By aaronshaf
Remember, it has been correlated literature and...

Remember, it has been correlated literature and Mormon authorities from the General Conference pulpit who have promoted the first interpretation. It'd be unfair to pin the first interpretation on...
Forum: Religion 01-23-2008, 03:19 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 2,352
Posted By aaronshaf
I've been working on this article for a little...

I've been working on this article for a little while now:

http://www.mrm.org/topics/salvation/2-nephi-25-23-a-distinctive-mormon-passage-salvation

(It's still a working draft)

Anyways, given...
Forum: Religion 12-28-2007, 05:46 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 700
Posted By aaronshaf
If I may quote from my Theopedia article...

If I may quote from my Theopedia article (http://www.theopedia.com/Sinlessness_of_Jesus):

In Hebrews we read that Jesus "has been tempted in every way, just as we are - yet was without sin"...
Forum: Religion 10-10-2007, 05:34 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 2,323
Posted By aaronshaf
It's dangerous quoting Mormon leaders to Mormons,...

It's dangerous quoting Mormon leaders to Mormons, isn't it? :-)



I have another article related to this subject:

http://www.mormonwiki.org/Atheological_tendency

Take care,
Forum: Religion 10-10-2007, 01:36 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 2,323
Posted By aaronshaf
Church leadership has been pretty consistent and...

Church leadership has been pretty consistent and public with a definition of what this phrase means. Allow me to point you to an article where I discuss this:
...
Forum: Religion 10-08-2007, 05:46 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 950
Posted By aaronshaf
"Do your duty!"

"Do your duty!"
Forum: Religion 09-21-2007, 06:28 PM
Replies: 74
Views: 4,300
Posted By aaronshaf
I doubt you guys are as comfortable trashing...

I doubt you guys are as comfortable trashing living prophets are you are dead ones. True, this forum doesn't follow the unspoken rules in Mormonism as much, but you aren't completely free from its...
Forum: Religion 09-21-2007, 05:52 PM
Replies: 74
Views: 4,300
Posted By aaronshaf
Rule #1. Never trash talk a living apostle or...

Rule #1. Never trash talk a living apostle or prophet like this.

Rule #2. If an apostle or prophet dies, you can trash talk him all you want.

Rule #3. Implicitly treat living apostles and...
Forum: Religion 09-19-2007, 03:30 AM
Replies: 66
Views: 4,074
Posted By aaronshaf
Taq Man, have you been watching South Park again?...

Taq Man, have you been watching South Park again?

tsk tsk
Forum: Religion 09-13-2007, 02:17 PM
Replies: 41
Views: 3,076
Posted By aaronshaf
Both. What argument of his was I...

Both.



What argument of his was I supposed to be answering? My reply about Nibley was part of a joke to a silly question about floating.
Forum: Religion 09-13-2007, 02:15 PM
Replies: 41
Views: 3,076
Posted By aaronshaf
Of course I knew you guys already knew about it....

Of course I knew you guys already knew about it. In fact, there were already discussion threads over it on this board. I thought you'd appreciate the video of it too.

But you guys are just plain...
Forum: Religion 09-13-2007, 04:20 AM
Replies: 41
Views: 3,076
Posted By aaronshaf
No, I live in Midvale, UT now.

No, I live in Midvale, UT now.
Forum: Religion 09-13-2007, 04:19 AM
Replies: 41
Views: 3,076
Posted By aaronshaf
I view ad hominem as when you attack the person...

I view ad hominem as when you attack the person as a way of avoiding specific issues (like truth-claims). If you can point to where I'm trying to avoid the truth-claim issues by attacking someone's...
Forum: Religion 09-12-2007, 11:58 PM
Replies: 41
Views: 3,076
Posted By aaronshaf
ChinoCoug, just send an invite to me.

ChinoCoug, just send an invite to me.
Forum: Religion 09-12-2007, 11:10 PM
Replies: 41
Views: 3,076
Posted By aaronshaf
By the way... and I say this with a smile... ...

By the way... and I say this with a smile...

Do you guys realize how much ad hominem you use? Good grief, I'd swear you have a picture of me in your garage with darts all over it :-)
Forum: Religion 09-12-2007, 11:07 PM
Replies: 41
Views: 3,076
Posted By aaronshaf
Well, back then (when I was using that site):...

Well, back then (when I was using that site): some that I met in Ohio but mostly those I met in Utah while in UT over a summer.
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