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Old 07-04-2008, 10:42 PM   #38
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Originally Posted by MikeWaters View Post
I should add, "Be careful what you ask for."

The study showing you that LDS gay teen males in Utah are disproportionately likely to commit suicide would not comfort you much, I dare say.
The point is, you engage in rhetorical demagoguery. People who don't like my sloppy hypothesis are haters. That's demagoguery and you know it.

I'm certain a study can be designed to show anything an author wants it to show. Studies in the social sciences and in the sciences of the mind are really not that reliable unless a consensus of studies establish the fact, given the errors of designing studies to eliminate author bias. Because you already possess a bias, I doubt you could design an unbiased, impartial study which would be revelatory.

Do I as a nonexpert believe environmental factors impact suicide? It sounds reasonable, but to what degree I am uncertain. And although urban holds certain societal pressures impact suicide, I haven't seen reliable consensus data supporting that, but I would not be surprised if it exists. A key example is the effect of Japanese culture to succeed has upon students in their educational system. And borrowing from Hegel, it also seems plausible that societal forces at the point of collision between thesis and antithesis, there will be casualties. Thus if one modifies those forces, there will be side effects. Are the consequences intended?
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