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Old 10-21-2008, 09:25 PM   #14
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Who is worse than Bush and Carter?

But let's not take anything Bush said at face value. It was not created for the purpose of protecting the US, it was created to evade the protections of US law. It was a careful plan.
For detainees, I agree that was part of the reason for selecting Gitmo. And with good reason. In the years since, it seems there's no terrorist that liberal courts don't want to grant Constitutional rights to ... a sad after effect, I assume, of being citizens of the world first, and Americans second.

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And he didn't do it to expand executive power, he did in disregard of whether it increased executive power and whether it abridged the civil liberties of the US.

In fact, his lawyers knew it was a problem and carefully sought to create plausible deniability, because Bush wanted to do, what he wanted to do.
And John Ashcroft is reading your public library checkout records.
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