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Old 11-06-2008, 10:59 PM   #144
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Originally Posted by Archaea View Post
I won't argue that gay orientation is volitional or primarily volitional, but your analogy or logic is faulty.

People can make choices which ultimately lead to unhappiness. Remember the stories of the Great Depression, where those who lost everything jumped out of buildings, are you saying that they didn't make choices involving that? Of course, the fact somebody does or does not commit suicide does not aid us in understanding this phenomenon.
first, i did say it was a nutshell, not fleshed out.

but in another nutshell....

gays commit suicide over their homosexuality because they CANT change it, they were born that way.

Stock brokers jumping off ledges are doing so not out of genetic disposition. If you took that same stock broker and handed him a bag of money, he would come off the ledge and be ok.

There is no comparable "bag of money" you can hand a despondent gay person to get them off the ledge.
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