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MikeWaters · 12-18-2005, 04:31 AM

I wish Jay could tell me the context in which he wrote the memo. THen I could better judge him.

"Hey Jay, go write up a memo on torture, and come up with some guidelines."

or

"Hey Jay, write a memo that squeezes every last bit of possibility of harsh treatment that still meets our legal obligations"

or

"Hey Jay, several incidents have happened, and we need to cover our asses if this ever gets out. Come up with something." (this is actually some of the stuff I read--that CIA was doing some stuff, and there was internal dissension about the legality, and that the memo was retrospective).

No matter how you slice it, Jay Bybee's name will be a hiss and byword at most, and forgotten at least.

I don't care if Jay is a "good guy" or not. "good guys" can be the instruments of evil. Certainly much evil was justified by his legal reasoning.

12-18-2005, 04:31 AM	#3
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	I wish Jay could tell me the context in which he wrote the memo. THen I could better judge him. "Hey Jay, go write up a memo on torture, and come up with some guidelines." or "Hey Jay, write a memo that squeezes every last bit of possibility of harsh treatment that still meets our legal obligations" or "Hey Jay, several incidents have happened, and we need to cover our asses if this ever gets out. Come up with something." (this is actually some of the stuff I read--that CIA was doing some stuff, and there was internal dissension about the legality, and that the memo was retrospective). No matter how you slice it, Jay Bybee's name will be a hiss and byword at most, and forgotten at least. I don't care if Jay is a "good guy" or not. "good guys" can be the instruments of evil. Certainly much evil was justified by his legal reasoning.