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Originally Posted by MikeWaters
Catblue, your opinion that the phrase "true religion and true science are the same" is silly, comes from what I believe is your bias.....
True religion is a description of truth. Of reality. So is true science, to the best of our ability to sense and measure.
How can one believe in the possibility of intelligent life in the universe outside ourselves but wholly discount the existence of God?
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Religion is the service and worship of God or other supernatural force, through an insitutionalized system of attitutudes, beliefs and practices. Religion derives its vitality from a discimpline knowns "faith." Faith in this context means a firm belief in or conviction as to something of which there is no proof: complete trust.
Science does not purport to be a "description" of any truth or of anything at all. Science, like faith, is a discipline, but in contrast to faith, it is essentially a system for obtaining knowledge through the application of the scientific method, i.e., establishing the truth or falsity of propositions strictly through empirical testing and observation. In the realm of science, there is much trial and error, but no room for faith that is not subject to rigorous empirical scrutiny.
Hence, contrary to being the the same thing as religion, science is often at war with religion.