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Old 08-16-2007, 07:43 AM   #19
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Some historians believe the Franks saved Europe from becoming an Islamic state. Charlemagne was certainly one of the most important people who ever lived. He was illiterate but threw his might and wealth behind propagating the copying and preserving of ancient texts later brought forth in the latter days, helping to restore enlighightenment. His grandfather Charles Martel's victory that turned the Muslims back at Tours has been called one of the 20 most important military victories in the history of the world.
well, mindful is mostly fascinated by this Charlemagne "a master of western europe by the sword and cross".
As is often the case, people considered great by historians are great killers as well.Throughout his conquests, Charlemagne was responsible for the death of masses of people who refused to accept Christianity, or their new king. Choosing to keep faith with their old gods and leaders, many thousands were slaughtered, which ironically paved the way for the later Ottonian Dynasty.

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Does the fact that Persian charioteers received 0 votes mean we've lost mindful? If so, it's a pity.
a single vote for persian charioteers in here could be considered bias.if i was into "referral" business thing ,i might have voted for persian charioteers two or three times though.
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