12-08-2014, 04:25 AM | #1 |
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Big 12 and BYU
I've pretty much lost hope that it will happen.
But like a moth to the flame, I start to let my guard down and hope beyond hope that it will happen now. It's going to be crushing when (if) the Big 12 expands without BYU. However if it did happen, games in: Austin Norman Lubbock Waco Fort Worth Stillwater All of these within driving distance for me. and then WVU, Kansas, KSU, and Iowa State (who cares) |
12-08-2014, 10:42 PM | #2 |
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I'm having trouble coming up with the economic model where the Big 12 actually wants to expand.
If you're sitting on 2 to 3 billion over the next 10 years....how can any two teams make up for a loss of potentially 400 million dollars? that's 10 x 20 million x 2 teams. Let's say that the new teams take a pay cut. only 10 million per year average over 10 years. that's still 200 million dollars to come up with. If BYU continues with a contract similar to its current one, we can guess that they will make 70 million dollars over 10 years in TV money. That still doesn't close the gap, if all of that is rolled in. |
12-09-2014, 04:09 AM | #3 | |
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I don't think we'll see expansion before April.
When April comes, the Big 12 will either be allowed to have a CCG with 10 teams or not. If yes, then no expansion. If no, then I think they still hold off on expansion. I think they can convince themselves that there are plenty of scenarios where there conference will benefit from not having a conference championship game. See this article: http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/col...-is-big-12.ece Quote:
I think it is likely we will remain independent for the foreseeable future. I can't see us going back to the MWC for a couple reasons: 1. The TV money paycut 2. The frighteningly bad schedule that would be playing other MWC teams 3. The blow to our ego Was that 3 reasons? And so it is. We remain as we are. But up side is that the schedules in upcoming years should be a lot better. So that's good. And who knows, maybe the Pac-12 will break our way someday, when the money is right and they can swallow their distaste. |
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12-09-2014, 03:42 PM | #4 |
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BYU needs to send a note and a gift to each President in the Big 12. The gift is a bottle of Pappy Van Winkle bourbon.
Send the message of "We want it, we get it, we are more flexible than you think, we don't impose our values on you." We are the bothersome square weirdos. We need to counter that. We need to show we can be good partners. Part of the club. |
12-09-2014, 04:11 PM | #5 |
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BYU football is my #1 diversion, but we're first-world spoiled brats if we're willing to give up a religious principle for football.
How hard is it to let us in Football only so we won't have to inconvenience them? Geez. There must be something different about the Big 12's incentive structure, because all other P5 conferences want to expand. |
12-09-2014, 05:09 PM | #6 |
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None of them want BYU.
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12-09-2014, 07:05 PM | #10 |
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The only thing that distinguishes Mormons from Jehovah's Witnesses and Seventh Day Witnesses is BYU football.
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