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Archaea · 11-13-2011, 04:09 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/13/op...&smid=fb-share

A poorly written article by somebody claiming a relationship with Yale. It's hard to believe somebody who attempted to review the religion got so little from his research. This is supposed to be by Harold Bloom? Geeze he's really turned sour on LDS.

MikeWaters · 11-13-2011, 06:46 PM

He must be abusing prescription drugs.

I have a friend who majored in literature at Yale, and described Bloom as known to be a morally disgusting man. Not that that has any bearing on this article, other than he may be someone to really not care for the socially conservative taking a prominent place in America. Hence his endorsement of the irreligious Obama.

MikeWaters · 11-13-2011, 09:15 PM

Chino may have to edit his sig now.

Archaea · 11-14-2011, 04:56 AM

It's an internally inconsistent, invalid series of arguments that the writer should know better. It appears to be a piss-poor argument to support his own political candidate by distorting what he knows to be the truth.

Bloom just plummeted as a literary critic. I thought literary critics were supposed to be able pen coherent sentences.

ChinoCoug · 11-14-2011, 02:26 PM

What part of his argument don't you guys agree with? Do you just not like that he's bagging on your candidate?

Sig changed.

MikeWaters · 11-14-2011, 03:04 PM

Some of his criticisms are valid, and have been discussed before. Mainstreaming efforts by the LDS hierarchy, distancing from "gnostic" Mormonism and Joseph Smith.

This piece is written like he he was drunk, wanted to write a hit piece on Romney, pulled down a copy of his "The American Religion" and slopped some sentences together.

If he was not drunk when he wrote that, I would assume that means that he generally uses a pretty remarkable editor, and didn't use the editor for that piece.

Tex · 11-14-2011, 05:25 PM

Come on, guys. Bloom is just voicing what all the Milquetoast Mormons have been saying for years. You guys should be drinking deeply from this.

ChinoCoug · 11-14-2011, 06:07 PM

Yeah, he was drunk. I missed that the first time around for some reason.

11-13-2011, 04:09 PM	#1
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	NYT on Mormonism http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/13/op...&smid=fb-share A poorly written article by somebody claiming a relationship with Yale. It's hard to believe somebody who attempted to review the religion got so little from his research. This is supposed to be by Harold Bloom? Geeze he's really turned sour on LDS. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα Last edited by Archaea; 11-14-2011 at 04:54 AM.

11-14-2011, 04:56 AM	#4
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	It's an internally inconsistent, invalid series of arguments that the writer should know better. It appears to be a piss-poor argument to support his own political candidate by distorting what he knows to be the truth. Bloom just plummeted as a literary critic. I thought literary critics were supposed to be able pen coherent sentences. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

11-14-2011, 02:26 PM	#5
ChinoCoug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NOVA Posts: 3,005	What part of his argument don't you guys agree with? Do you just not like that he's bagging on your candidate? Sig changed. __________________ 太初有道

11-14-2011, 05:25 PM	#7
Tex Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,596	Come on, guys. Bloom is just voicing what all the Milquetoast Mormons have been saying for years. You guys should be drinking deeply from this. __________________ "Have we been commanded not to call a prophet an insular racist? Link?" "And yes, [2010] is a very good year to be a Democrat. Perhaps the best year in decades ..." - Cali Coug "Oh dear, granny, what a long tail our puss has got." - Brigham Young

11-14-2011, 06:07 PM	#8
ChinoCoug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NOVA Posts: 3,005	Yeah, he was drunk. I missed that the first time around for some reason. __________________ 太初有道

11-13-2011, 06:46 PM	#2
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	He must be abusing prescription drugs. I have a friend who majored in literature at Yale, and described Bloom as known to be a morally disgusting man. Not that that has any bearing on this article, other than he may be someone to really not care for the socially conservative taking a prominent place in America. Hence his endorsement of the irreligious Obama.

11-13-2011, 09:15 PM	#3
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Chino may have to edit his sig now.

11-14-2011, 03:04 PM	#6
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Some of his criticisms are valid, and have been discussed before. Mainstreaming efforts by the LDS hierarchy, distancing from "gnostic" Mormonism and Joseph Smith. This piece is written like he he was drunk, wanted to write a hit piece on Romney, pulled down a copy of his "The American Religion" and slopped some sentences together. If he was not drunk when he wrote that, I would assume that means that he generally uses a pretty remarkable editor, and didn't use the editor for that piece.