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MikeWaters · 12-10-2007, 04:25 PM

I thought he would have a tough time adjusting to the NFL, given that he never appeared to be a natural transitioning from high school to college (unlike Detmer for example).

MikeWaters · 12-10-2007, 04:27 PM

That El Paso Coug is worried that his thousands of dollars invested in Beck memoribilia and rookie cards might be worthless, kind of gives me perverse pleasure.

il Padrino Ute · 12-10-2007, 04:31 PM

He's started what, 3 games?

I wouldn't say he is a flop. If this was his 4th year and he had a good offensive line and decent receivers and run support and did the same, then he'd be a flop.

Beck is the sacrificial lamb right now.

Tex · 12-10-2007, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I thought he would have a tough time adjusting to the NFL, given that he never appeared to be a natural transitioning from high school to college (unlike Detmer for example).

You're joking, right? He steps in for his first start with a team that's already what, 0-9, and he's supposed to play savior?

Beck's getting a trial-by-fire for sure, and he may well bust, but I think we're WAY premature in making that assessment now.

YOhio · 12-10-2007, 05:18 PM

How did Steve Young do in Tampa Bay? Comparable situations?

MikeWaters · 12-10-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by YOhio

How did Steve Young do in Tampa Bay? Comparable situations?

Who they start next week will speak volumes.

smokymountainrain · 12-10-2007, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

He's started what, 3 games?

I wouldn't say he is a flop. If this was his 4th year and he had a good offensive line and decent receivers and run support and did the same, then he'd be a flop.

Beck is the sacrificial lamb right now.

He started one game against a very good team in a downpour and played about as well as Roethlisberger. If I'm evaluating a QB, I pretty much throw that game out the window.

He played poorly in his next start - there is one strike against him.

He threw 2 passes before he was pulled in his next start.

Not only is it way too early to label him a bust, but Cameron hasn't given him a fair shot. One bad game doesn't not make a bad QB.

I've never been very impressed with Beck, even at BYU, but the Dolphins owe him more than a couple games before they make a judgement.

BigFatMeanie · 12-10-2007, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by smokymountainrain

He started one game against a very good team in a downpour and played about as well as Roethlisberger. If I'm evaluating a QB, I pretty much throw that game out the window.

He played poorly in his next start - there is one strike against him.

He threw 2 passes before he was pulled in his next start.

Not only is it way too early to label him a bust, but Cameron hasn't given him a fair shot. One bad game doesn't not make a bad QB.

I've never been very impressed with Beck, even at BYU, but the Dolphins owe him more than a couple games before they make a judgement.

Not only do they owe him more than a couple of games, they owe him more than a couple of games with a decent supporting cast. I wouldn't call the current group of receivers, running backs, and O-line a decent supporting cast.

Clark Addison · 12-10-2007, 06:56 PM

Obviously way to early to call him a bust; however, because of his age, I think Beck may be under pressure to become good quicker than your average QB.

QBs who are younger than Beck:

Ben Roethlisberger
Jay Cutler
Derek Anderson
Philip Rivers
Jason Campbell
Vince Young
Alex Smith

Others, such as Eli Manning, are less than a year older than him.

When Steve young was Beck's age, he was already through with Tampa, and on the Niners (but, of course, didn't become the starter for another 4 years or so).

JohnnyLingo · 12-10-2007, 11:34 PM

I can't believe this is even a thread topic.

When even Ute fans will defend him, it's way too early.

12-10-2007, 04:25 PM	#1
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Too early to call Beck a bust? I thought he would have a tough time adjusting to the NFL, given that he never appeared to be a natural transitioning from high school to college (unlike Detmer for example).

12-10-2007, 04:31 PM	#3
il Padrino Ute Board Pinhead Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the basement of my house, Murray, Utah. Posts: 15,941	He's started what, 3 games? I wouldn't say he is a flop. If this was his 4th year and he had a good offensive line and decent receivers and run support and did the same, then he'd be a flop. Beck is the sacrificial lamb right now. __________________ "The beauty of baseball is not having to explain it." - Chuck Shriver "This is now the joke that stupid people laugh at." - Christopher Hitchens on IQ jokes about GWB.

12-10-2007, 04:27 PM	#2
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	That El Paso Coug is worried that his thousands of dollars invested in Beck memoribilia and rookie cards might be worthless, kind of gives me perverse pleasure.

12-10-2007, 05:18 PM	#5
YOhio AKA SeattleNewt Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,055	How did Steve Young do in Tampa Bay? Comparable situations?

12-10-2007, 06:56 PM	#9
Clark Addison Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 638	Obviously way to early to call him a bust; however, because of his age, I think Beck may be under pressure to become good quicker than your average QB. QBs who are younger than Beck: Ben Roethlisberger Jay Cutler Derek Anderson Philip Rivers Jason Campbell Vince Young Alex Smith Others, such as Eli Manning, are less than a year older than him. When Steve young was Beck's age, he was already through with Tampa, and on the Niners (but, of course, didn't become the starter for another 4 years or so).

12-10-2007, 11:34 PM	#10
JohnnyLingo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,175	I can't believe this is even a thread topic. When even Ute fans will defend him, it's way too early.