Rasmussen is a dopin' jerk too

[creekster]

http://www.velonews.com/tour2007/new...s/12851.0.html

I have never liked Fasmussen, although I am not sure why. This article suggests he may be as big of a jerk as he seems to me.

[MikeWaters]

wow, someone is going to have to poke a stick into his wheel to ensure the survival of the Tour. It will be a disaster if he wins.

[creekster]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

wow, someone is going to have to poke a stick into his wheel to ensure the survival of the Tour. It will be a disaster if he wins.

DOn't worry, he won't win. ALmost everyone in the top ten will be very near or ahead of him after tomorrow's ITT is my prediciton.

[Quisqueyano]

Slow down.
I think the question needs only to be whether he has doped recently and is that is affecting current results. I personally don't care if he has done it in the past. If he is clean now, and is getting the results he is getting, that is pretty cool.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Quisqueyano

Slow down.
I think the question needs only to be whether he has doped recently and is that is affecting current results. I personally don't care if he has done it in the past. If he is clean now, and is getting the results he is getting, that is pretty cool.

did you miss the part where he was just kicked off his national team for not being in full compliance with their testing procedures (i.e. not available to be tested)?

[creekster]

Originally Posted by Quisqueyano

Slow down.
I think the question needs only to be whether he has doped recently and is that is affecting current results. I personally don't care if he has done it in the past. If he is clean now, and is getting the results he is getting, that is pretty cool.

I sort of agree, but I was as disgusted by the way he apparently treated his freind as I was wiht his doping. Plus, there are many rumors about him and his behavior, which led to him being kicked of the national team, as MW noted.

[Quisqueyano]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

did you miss the part where he was just kicked off his national team for not being in full compliance with their testing procedures (i.e. not available to be tested)?

I read all about that. But that error sounds more clerical than anything.
UCI has reprimanded him but not suspended him. Which leads me to think that there are not any "not negative" results to talk about. And that's what really matters after all. Test him. If they haven't already. If he is dirty now then nail him for it. if he is clean now, let it go.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Quisqueyano

I read all about that. But that error sounds more clerical than anything.
UCI has reprimanded him but not suspended him. Which leads me to think that there are not any "not negative" results to talk about. And that's what really matters after all. Test him. If they haven't already. If he is dirty now then nail him for it. if he is clean now, let it go.

what if he wasn't clean 4 months ago? Do you care?

[creekster]

Originally Posted by Quisqueyano

I read all about that. But that error sounds more clerical than anything.
UCI has reprimanded him but not suspended him. Which leads me to think that there are not any "not negative" results to talk about. And that's what really matters after all. Test him. If they haven't already. If he is dirty now then nail him for it. if he is clean now, let it go.

It was clerical, but it could also be that he was avopiding doping controls, which is the reason for the clerical rules. You may have noticed in the artiucle that the product he allegeldy asked his buddy to carry to him in Europe was nto tested for at the time. IOW, the lack of positives do nto mean, necessarily, that he wasn't doping. I find myself in a middle ground. If no poisitve test there should be no sanction but with evidence like this against Rasmussen there should be heightened scrutiny.

[MikeWaters]

Rabobank should kick him off the team right now.