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BYU71 · 08-20-2007, 02:07 PM

will include Div. 1AA (EWU types).

I am OK with that if 2 conditions are met. 1) it is only done in odd numbered years like this one, 2) it is one of the first two games during the year and we use that game for suspensions.

Number 1 is my primary concern. I just saw a ranking of teams over the past 3 years. SDSU, UNLV and Wyoming are ranked in the bottom third. We play them in the odd years, plus UNM. UNM isn't exactly a marque match up either. If we schedule a USU or !AA those years too, well that isn't exactly my idea of honor.

Even number years, fine. Schedule a 1AA. If you have a BCS school coming to town, plus Utah and TCU. It is an honorable schedule.

Don't anyone give me the big boys schedule 1AA schools too. The big boys play good teams in their conference. Take the PAC10 for example. We are excited to play Az. They are also ranked in the bottom third, but we are happy to play them.

MikeWaters · 08-20-2007, 02:18 PM

I agree. I hate playing 1AA. The only exciting thing about these games is if the favored team loses.

The best way to discourage this is not attend these games. When the attendance dips to 40k, and the mtn network refuses to televise it, we may be getting somewhere.

Indy Coug · 08-20-2007, 02:19 PM

Yes, if we're going to be playing 1-AA teams, they should be our season opener and basically serve as a preseason game to work the kinks out before taking on a quality team.

Tex · 08-20-2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

... the mtn network refuses to televise it ...

Right ... the mtn and its army of loyal, angry viewers. It's too bad we can't know ahead of time which years will be "down" years and schedule IAA teams then. Reminds me of the Murray State coach who came to town a decade or so ago, "They need a win. We need a new locker room."

Just please, BYU, don't pull a Colorado.

MikeWaters · 08-20-2007, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex

Right ... the mtn and its army of loyal, angry viewers. It's too bad we can't know ahead of time which years will be "down" years and schedule IAA teams then. Reminds me of the Murray State coach who came to town a decade or so ago, "They need a win. We need a new locker room."

Just please, BYU, don't pull a Colorado.

actually, if you are going to be a pussy and schedule a Div 1aa team, I'm rooting for you to lose.

You can't be trying to break onto the national scene and be playing weber states.

Indy Coug · 08-20-2007, 02:42 PM

There were 76 D-1A vs D-1AA games in 2006. 44 of those games involved BCS teams. 44 of 63 BCS teams (70%) had 1-AA games last year.

Tex · 08-20-2007, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

actually, if you are going to be a pussy and schedule a Div 1aa team, I'm rooting for you to lose.

You can't be trying to break onto the national scene and be playing weber states.

One could argue that Boise State did it with some success.

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

There were 76 D-1A vs D-1AA games in 2006. 44 of those games involved BCS teams. 44 of 63 BCS teams (70%) had 1-AA games last year.

LOL. Stop ruining Mike's world with facts, Indy.

MikeWaters · 08-20-2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

There were 76 D-1A vs D-1AA games in 2006. 44 of those games involved BCS teams. 44 of 63 BCS teams (70%) had 1-AA games last year.

And I think it's ridculous when a team like the Univ. of Texas plays North Texas.

or A&M plays Lafayette Louisiana. I root for them to lose (well, I mostly root for Texas to lose no matter what).

Indy Coug · 08-20-2007, 02:48 PM

The NCAA made a big mistake allowing teams to count all D-1AA games as victories as far as bowl eligibility goes. That, combined with the addition of a 12th game each year gave teams significant motivation to schedule 1-AA teams to get a cheap victory and have a 7th home game.

For teams that used to have 11 game seasons, they usually had 6 home and 5 road. The big teams weren't about to take that extra game and make it an extra road game, thus you have the bogus scheduling you see today.

jay santos · 08-20-2007, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

There were 76 D-1A vs D-1AA games in 2006. 44 of those games involved BCS teams. 44 of 63 BCS teams (70%) had 1-AA games last year.

The problem is we're not BCS. By my SOS calc's, out of the 64 teams (BCS + BYU), we ranked 62nd in SOS. Only Kansas and Wisconsin edged us out for easier schedules.

08-20-2007, 02:07 PM	#1
BYU71 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,084	I have heard more than once, future scheduling will include Div. 1AA (EWU types). I am OK with that if 2 conditions are met. 1) it is only done in odd numbered years like this one, 2) it is one of the first two games during the year and we use that game for suspensions. Number 1 is my primary concern. I just saw a ranking of teams over the past 3 years. SDSU, UNLV and Wyoming are ranked in the bottom third. We play them in the odd years, plus UNM. UNM isn't exactly a marque match up either. If we schedule a USU or !AA those years too, well that isn't exactly my idea of honor. Even number years, fine. Schedule a 1AA. If you have a BCS school coming to town, plus Utah and TCU. It is an honorable schedule. Don't anyone give me the big boys schedule 1AA schools too. The big boys play good teams in their conference. Take the PAC10 for example. We are excited to play Az. They are also ranked in the bottom third, but we are happy to play them.

08-20-2007, 02:18 PM	#2
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	I agree. I hate playing 1AA. The only exciting thing about these games is if the favored team loses. The best way to discourage this is not attend these games. When the attendance dips to 40k, and the mtn network refuses to televise it, we may be getting somewhere.

08-20-2007, 02:19 PM	#3
Indy Coug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Between Iraq and a hard place Posts: 7,569	Yes, if we're going to be playing 1-AA teams, they should be our season opener and basically serve as a preseason game to work the kinks out before taking on a quality team.

08-20-2007, 02:42 PM	#6
Indy Coug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Between Iraq and a hard place Posts: 7,569	There were 76 D-1A vs D-1AA games in 2006. 44 of those games involved BCS teams. 44 of 63 BCS teams (70%) had 1-AA games last year.

08-20-2007, 02:48 PM	#9
Indy Coug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Between Iraq and a hard place Posts: 7,569	The NCAA made a big mistake allowing teams to count all D-1AA games as victories as far as bowl eligibility goes. That, combined with the addition of a 12th game each year gave teams significant motivation to schedule 1-AA teams to get a cheap victory and have a 7th home game. For teams that used to have 11 game seasons, they usually had 6 home and 5 road. The big teams weren't about to take that extra game and make it an extra road game, thus you have the bogus scheduling you see today.