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MikeWaters · 10-24-2006, 04:39 PM

Meaning that in the Book of Nephi, is the voice of the narrator different than Mormon, the redacter/editor, etc.?

My personal belief is that yes, the voices are different. I believe that there may even be empiric evidence of this, but that is not my point.

I guess I am wondering whether constructing a work of fiction in several voices is something that Joseph Smith could have reasonably done, given what we know of his life and later writings. And do any of the voices in the BoM fit with Joseph Smith's own voice?

Archaea · 10-24-2006, 04:43 PM

There was a study of "wordprint" a number of years ago which should many, multiple "voices", not consistent with JS's.

As to the ability of somebody to mask his own voice I don't know, especially one as uneducated as JS.

For his detractors, who consider him a complete fraud, charlaton and moron, how do they believe he was able to mimic Middle Eastern artifacts within the BoM, revive gnosticism and create multiple voices within the BoM?

Some of their critiques appear beyond real.

Here's a link, wikipedia that it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BoM_Arabic

Archaea · 10-24-2006, 04:54 PM

Some additional links and there are many.

http://ourworld.cs.com/mikegriffith1/id108.htm

http://www.fairwiki.org/index.php/Bo...dprint_studies

SeattleUte · 10-24-2006, 04:58 PM

Hard to tell. To me they all sound like early 17th Century English Lords.

All-American · 10-24-2006, 04:59 PM

With his head in his hat, by the way. Thanks to South Park for that ground breaking research.

Archaea · 10-24-2006, 05:04 PM

The head in the hat story comes from David Whitmer, I believe, not from Oliver or Emma.

SeattleUte · 10-24-2006, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by All-American

With his head in his hat, by the way. Thanks to South Park for that ground breaking research.

Were you replying to my post? I didn't get it.

ute4ever · 10-24-2006, 05:41 PM

I have a paper at home from our friends at FARMS, who did a study of the language construction and wrote why they feel there were multiple authors. Granted, the research was done through their pro-LDS goggles, but I'll scan a pdf this evening and post it.

All-American · 10-24-2006, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Were you replying to my post? I didn't get it.

Didn't have you in mind, no.

SeattleUte · 10-24-2006, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by All-American

Didn't have you in mind, no.

What "research" is thanks to Southpark?

10-24-2006, 04:39 PM	#1
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Does the Book of Mormon have different "voices"? Meaning that in the Book of Nephi, is the voice of the narrator different than Mormon, the redacter/editor, etc.? My personal belief is that yes, the voices are different. I believe that there may even be empiric evidence of this, but that is not my point. I guess I am wondering whether constructing a work of fiction in several voices is something that Joseph Smith could have reasonably done, given what we know of his life and later writings. And do any of the voices in the BoM fit with Joseph Smith's own voice?

10-24-2006, 04:43 PM	#2
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	There was a study of "wordprint" a number of years ago which should many, multiple "voices", not consistent with JS's. As to the ability of somebody to mask his own voice I don't know, especially one as uneducated as JS. For his detractors, who consider him a complete fraud, charlaton and moron, how do they believe he was able to mimic Middle Eastern artifacts within the BoM, revive gnosticism and create multiple voices within the BoM? Some of their critiques appear beyond real. Here's a link, wikipedia that it is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BoM_Arabic __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα Last edited by Archaea; 10-24-2006 at 04:47 PM.

10-24-2006, 04:54 PM	#3
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	Some additional links and there are many. http://ourworld.cs.com/mikegriffith1/id108.htm http://www.fairwiki.org/index.php/Bo...dprint_studies __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

10-24-2006, 04:58 PM	#4
SeattleUte fairlds.org Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 10,665	Hard to tell. To me they all sound like early 17th Century English Lords. __________________ Interrupt all you like. We're involved in a complicated story here, and not everything is quite what it seems to be. —Paul Auster

10-24-2006, 04:59 PM	#5
All-American Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,420	With his head in his hat, by the way. Thanks to South Park for that ground breaking research. __________________ εν αρχη ην ο λογος

10-24-2006, 05:04 PM	#6
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	The head in the hat story comes from David Whitmer, I believe, not from Oliver or Emma. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

10-24-2006, 05:41 PM	#8
ute4ever I must not tell lies Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,103	I have a paper at home from our friends at FARMS, who did a study of the language construction and wrote why they feel there were multiple authors. Granted, the research was done through their pro-LDS goggles, but I'll scan a pdf this evening and post it.