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MikeWaters · 12-19-2007, 03:39 PM

I know they have shut down one or two in my stake in the past, because it was felt they were not functioning to a high enough level.

I.e. if you have the highest number of YM in the stake, but consistently the lowest number of YM going on missions, that concerns the stake.

But I understand that it was the white folks that were upset about the Spanish-speaking ward being shut down, because suddenly there ward was divided and not bi-lingual. The white folks complained that the stake was catering too much to Hispanics, and the white folks were told to stuff it and grow up.

I'm not a big fan of the [insert language]-speaking wards. Integration leads to more progress IMO.

Archaea · 12-19-2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I know they have shut down one or two in my stake in the past, because it was felt they were not functioning to a high enough level.

I.e. if you have the highest number of YM in the stake, but consistently the lowest number of YM going on missions, that concerns the stake.

But I understand that it was the white folks that were upset about the Spanish-speaking ward being shut down, because suddenly there ward was divided and not bi-lingual. The white folks complained that the stake was catering too much to Hispanics, and the white folks were told to stuff it and grow up.

I'm not a big fan of the [insert language]-speaking wards. Integration leads to more progress IMO.

I like the option to exist. If somebody wishes to integrate they are allowed to, but if they wish to worship in a tongue not so alien to them, then that is good as well.

Indy Coug · 12-19-2007, 03:42 PM

An Apostle (whose name escapes me) recently reaffirmed that it's ideal for members to hear the Gospel in their native tongue. FWIW.

That said, the branch I go to survives only because of the imported leadership from neighboring wards, otherwise it would be shut down.

MikeWaters · 12-19-2007, 03:44 PM

Farrah was imported to a foreign-speaking ward just because they didnt' have anyone who could play the organ. so that meant I had to be imported as well, which sucked.

ute4ever · 12-19-2007, 04:09 PM

Specialty wards such as singles and foreign languages were created during the Joseph Fielding Smith tenure. For years I have been hearing talk about doing away with them; has it been like that ever since he kicked the can?

K-dog · 12-19-2007, 04:11 PM

My stake has demographic wards. There are two "family wards" where people go when they have kids ages 3-18. There is a Single Adult ward where unmarried adults attend together. All other wards have married couples with kids over 18 or under 3 and single people who don't want to go to the Single Adult ward.

Rickomatic · 12-19-2007, 04:24 PM

We have a Poly ward and a Spanish ward in my stake. I personally had to be convinced that the Spanish was OK to segregate for language reasons only. But to have a Poly ward to me is weird. Not all Tongans and Samoans and Hawaiians get along that well. Just because they came from the islands does not mean they need to be separated from the other (white) members.

12-19-2007, 03:39 PM	#1
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Should Spanish-speaking wards be shut down? I know they have shut down one or two in my stake in the past, because it was felt they were not functioning to a high enough level. I.e. if you have the highest number of YM in the stake, but consistently the lowest number of YM going on missions, that concerns the stake. But I understand that it was the white folks that were upset about the Spanish-speaking ward being shut down, because suddenly there ward was divided and not bi-lingual. The white folks complained that the stake was catering too much to Hispanics, and the white folks were told to stuff it and grow up. I'm not a big fan of the [insert language]-speaking wards. Integration leads to more progress IMO.

12-19-2007, 04:11 PM	#6
K-dog Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 699	My stake has demographic wards. There are two "family wards" where people go when they have kids ages 3-18. There is a Single Adult ward where unmarried adults attend together. All other wards have married couples with kids over 18 or under 3 and single people who don't want to go to the Single Adult ward. __________________ He's down by the creek, walkin' on water. K-dog P.S. Grrrrrrrrr

12-19-2007, 04:24 PM	#7
Rickomatic Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: West Jordan UT Posts: 319	We have a Poly ward and a Spanish ward in my stake. I personally had to be convinced that the Spanish was OK to segregate for language reasons only. But to have a Poly ward to me is weird. Not all Tongans and Samoans and Hawaiians get along that well. Just because they came from the islands does not mean they need to be separated from the other (white) members. __________________ "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain

12-19-2007, 03:42 PM	#3
Indy Coug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Between Iraq and a hard place Posts: 7,569	An Apostle (whose name escapes me) recently reaffirmed that it's ideal for members to hear the Gospel in their native tongue. FWIW. That said, the branch I go to survives only because of the imported leadership from neighboring wards, otherwise it would be shut down.

12-19-2007, 03:44 PM	#4
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Farrah was imported to a foreign-speaking ward just because they didnt' have anyone who could play the organ. so that meant I had to be imported as well, which sucked.

12-19-2007, 04:09 PM	#5
ute4ever I must not tell lies Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,103	Specialty wards such as singles and foreign languages were created during the Joseph Fielding Smith tenure. For years I have been hearing talk about doing away with them; has it been like that ever since he kicked the can?