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MikeWaters · 12-19-2008, 03:06 AM

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmi...ce_groups.html

There are liberal Jews, there are conservative Jews.

There are liberal Mormons, there are conservative Mormons.

However, the organizational diversity of these American Jewish groups is obviously much larger than the Mormon organizational diversity.

If us Mormons ever want to get anything done on our own, we really cannot wait for some kind of imprimatur from SLC. We should be proactively about our Lord's business and organizing amongst ourselves. "Mormon" is a religion(s). But it is also a culture. It's a group of people(s). And we have become so passive, it is just sad.

RedHeadGal · 12-19-2008, 06:07 PM

There's plenty of organized diversity. It's Community of Christ and FLDS and others. I guess I don't known offhand whether they use the term "MOrmon" in CofC, and perhaps the name change was meant to signify their desire to fully part ways. But nevertheless, I see it all under the umbrella of Mormon.

MikeWaters · 12-19-2008, 06:39 PM

Sure include those a CoC rep, and a couple of polygamous reps. And then whom?

RedHeadGal · 12-19-2008, 07:54 PM

It took Jews hundreds of years to get to that point. We've not even arrived at hundreds of years yet.

And that would be interesting to see an orthodox mormon group meeting in a different place from the reform mormons. When the reform mormons get going, I hope they have shorter meetings.

And how would you propose this with such a strict heirarchy inherent to Mormonism. I note that CofC and FLDS and its ilk all have their own prohpets. So would the reform Mormons also have a new prophet? How would it be possible otherwise?

MikeWaters · 12-19-2008, 08:05 PM

Not every Mormon group need be a religious splinter group.

Opus Dei, per wiki, was established by a single priest and later given official status. So that's one model of diversity within a religion.

Another is issue groups that choose the umbrella of the word "Mormon" but are not a religion in and of themselves. Like MOFOE (Mormons for the Environment). Or in the case of Judaism, Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.

http://www.jpfo.org/

Tex · 12-19-2008, 09:31 PM

If we're speaking strictly of the LDS church, the difference between them and the Jews couldn't be more stark. I'm not sure if there's ever been a time in any snapshot of Jewish history where the administration of the faith has been as centralized as it is among modern Mormonism. Certainly no time after the 1st century was it ever like that.

12-19-2008, 03:06 AM	#1
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	So what groups would get invited to the Mormon meeting? http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmi...ce_groups.html There are liberal Jews, there are conservative Jews. There are liberal Mormons, there are conservative Mormons. However, the organizational diversity of these American Jewish groups is obviously much larger than the Mormon organizational diversity. If us Mormons ever want to get anything done on our own, we really cannot wait for some kind of imprimatur from SLC. We should be proactively about our Lord's business and organizing amongst ourselves. "Mormon" is a religion(s). But it is also a culture. It's a group of people(s). And we have become so passive, it is just sad.

12-19-2008, 09:31 PM	#6
Tex Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,596	If we're speaking strictly of the LDS church, the difference between them and the Jews couldn't be more stark. I'm not sure if there's ever been a time in any snapshot of Jewish history where the administration of the faith has been as centralized as it is among modern Mormonism. Certainly no time after the 1st century was it ever like that. __________________ "Have we been commanded not to call a prophet an insular racist? Link?" "And yes, [2010] is a very good year to be a Democrat. Perhaps the best year in decades ..." - Cali Coug "Oh dear, granny, what a long tail our puss has got." - Brigham Young

12-19-2008, 06:07 PM	#2
RedHeadGal Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: DC Posts: 995	There's plenty of organized diversity. It's Community of Christ and FLDS and others. I guess I don't known offhand whether they use the term "MOrmon" in CofC, and perhaps the name change was meant to signify their desire to fully part ways. But nevertheless, I see it all under the umbrella of Mormon.

12-19-2008, 06:39 PM	#3
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Sure include those a CoC rep, and a couple of polygamous reps. And then whom?

12-19-2008, 07:54 PM	#4
RedHeadGal Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: DC Posts: 995	It took Jews hundreds of years to get to that point. We've not even arrived at hundreds of years yet. And that would be interesting to see an orthodox mormon group meeting in a different place from the reform mormons. When the reform mormons get going, I hope they have shorter meetings. And how would you propose this with such a strict heirarchy inherent to Mormonism. I note that CofC and FLDS and its ilk all have their own prohpets. So would the reform Mormons also have a new prophet? How would it be possible otherwise?

12-19-2008, 08:05 PM	#5
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Not every Mormon group need be a religious splinter group. Opus Dei, per wiki, was established by a single priest and later given official status. So that's one model of diversity within a religion. Another is issue groups that choose the umbrella of the word "Mormon" but are not a religion in and of themselves. Like MOFOE (Mormons for the Environment). Or in the case of Judaism, Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership. http://www.jpfo.org/