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01-27-2008, 08:57 PM | #1 |
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I personally find this compassion and ability to look the other way when it comes to a law of the land and yet are so strict in how they handle BYU. Can we all admit the HC at BYU is more about controlling students than it is about morals and discipline. |
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01-27-2008, 09:32 PM | #3 |
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Stop hijacking my thread!!!
They have time to explain this, but can't explain blacks and the priesthood. |
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Maybe they realize it is a thread about blacks and the priesthood which I didn't recognize. |
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01-27-2008, 10:07 PM | #6 |
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I'm not saying to deport all the illegals, but how does requiring people to obey the law lack compassion?
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A common scenario in the illegal immigration debate: couple comes over the border illegally. They live in the US for years.....over a decade. In that time, both mother and father have 2 children in the states. The kids go to elementary school and are now in the junior high school. The kids are good kids and the parents just want the kids to go to college and get a good job. The parents do not pay income taxes, but nor will they be eligible for social security or welfare when they are older. They do pay sales tax. During their time here, they commit no crimes and basically are low key residents in their community. The kids are entrenched, have friends, speak English, and are normal junior high school kids. IPU, so you are saying that in your BEST analysis, the most important issue, the most glaring problem here, is that 12 years ago, 2 people crossed the border illegally and so we must "obey the law" and kick them out? Uproot them, separate them from their kids, or force their kids, US citizens, to move to sub-standard living conditions? This is about obeying the law? Seriously?
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I'm just trying to get Cali to explain his comment that many Repubs don't want to be compassionate. He made the accusation so I'm calling him out and the best way to get a liberal like him to explain himself is to make a comment like I did.
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I think that the answer to your question....the REAL answer.....can be found in the article. This is more an issue of latent racism than people being offended that someone didn't obey the law. As the NYC lawyer pointed out, if people are so up in arms about obeying the law, why don't we round up other similar non-violent offenders? The overwhelming majority of economist agree that immigration helps our economy. While income taxes are NOT paid, sales taxes are paid. And these illegals cannot claim social security benefits when they are older. US companies are already off-shoring more and more jobs because domestic labor is too expensive, so the argument that illegals take jobs doesn't ring very true. Americans are not applying for or wanting the jobs that most illegals do, anyway. I think compassion would require any and all talk of any sort of sweeping deportation. Deportation is ridiculous. It doesn't work. Ideally, it is a great fix--let's find them and toss them out. Practically speaking, what a dumb idea. It makes as much sense as fighting "terror." Let's get over the fact they are here and figure out 2 main things: what to do with those that are already here and how to organize the continual future inflows of immigrants. The person who lacks compassion is the one who is a dogmatist and cannot see the human aspect of the issue...in other words, "the law is the law....they broke they law....kick them out." That lacks compassion.
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I agree with what you've posted about those who don't pay income taxes and won't be able to receive social security benefits. These are just folks who want to better their lives. One of the biggest problems that I see that is a result of illegal immigration is that there are billions of dollars going into Mexico as the illegals send money to their families and the corrupt Mexican government loves the extra money coming in, so it has no incentive to do anything about illegals crossing the border into the US. I don't have a solution to this other than putting the military at the border to discourage illegal crossings.
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