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Cali Coug · 01-04-2008, 03:24 AM

I haven't been this excited about a political victory in my lifetime. Obama beat the odds and knocked off a tough Clinton campaign in Iowa, of all places.

I think there are lots of messages to take from tonight. First, independents are leaning HEAVILY Democratic right now. That may have shifted with an Obama loss tonight towards McCain, but Obama has HUGE momentum now, and independents are likely to continue flocking to his campaign, propelling him to wins in New Hampshire and South Carolina.

Second, people in America really want change. That is bad news for Clinton, who superficially appears to be more of the same, due to her connection to Bill. This could be a tidal wave election, where Obama has a real chance to overwhelmingly be elected as the next president. If a black man can win in Iowa, one of the whitest of all states with a solid evangelical base, from a party attracting more than twice the turnout in a caucus than the Republican party, where can't he win? For the first time in the history of this great nation, the ultimate glass ceiling may be about to be shattered for African-Americans. And, as the excitement about that fact builds, African-Americans may be involved in voting in unprecedented numbers.

This is a historic day, and a thrilling one.

woot · 01-04-2008, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug

I haven't been this excited about a political victory in my lifetime. Obama beat the odds and knocked off a tough Clinton campaign in Iowa, of all places.

I think there are lots of messages to take from tonight. First, independents are leaning HEAVILY Democratic right now. That may have shifted with an Obama loss tonight towards McCain, but Obama has HUGE momentum now, and independents are likely to continue flocking to his campaign, propelling him to wins in New Hampshire and South Carolina.

Second, people in America really want change. That is bad news for Clinton, who superficially appears to be more of the same, due to her connection to Bill. This could be a tidal wave election, where Obama has a real chance to overwhelmingly be elected as the next president. If a black man can win in Iowa, one of the whitest of all states with a solid evangelical base, from a party attracting more than twice the turnout in a caucus than the Republican party, where can't he win? For the first time in the history of this great nation, the ultimate glass ceiling may be about to be shattered for African-Americans. And, as the excitement about that fact builds, African-Americans may be involved in voting in unprecedented numbers.

This is a historic day, and a thrilling one.

While I'm not quite as enthused about Obama as you are, he is my favorite candidate and having a black guy get the most votes of anyone from either party in such a white state tells me that this country is making progress. It really does seem like he is the only choice for those who want change, with the possible exception of Edwards, and I have to think that a very large percentage of this country wants change.

BYU71 · 01-04-2008, 03:32 AM

Awesome, he is going to get rid of lobbyists, unite Americans, provide health care for all , middle class tax cuts, stop sending jobs abroad, bring the troops home, eliminate the terrorists and make all Americans feel good about Americans.

The only problem is with a democratic congress he will turn us in France. What good will it do to feel good about being an American when we will be French.

woot · 01-04-2008, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

Awesome, he is going to get rid of lobbyists, unite Americans, provide health care for all , middle class tax cuts, stop sending jobs abroad, bring the troops home, eliminate the terrorists and make all Americans feel good about Americans.

The only problem is with a democratic congress he will turn us in France. What good will it do to feel good about being an American when we will be French.

While you're obviously exaggerating, I think you're ignoring the many things France does well, and the many things that Bush has done to make our country a shadow of its former self.

myboynoah · 01-04-2008, 03:39 AM

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While you're obviously exaggerating, I think you're ignoring the many things France does well, and the many things that Bush has done to make our country a shadow of its former self.

List for me what it is that the French do well (aside from food and dressing their women)?

YOhio · 01-04-2008, 03:42 AM

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List for me what it is that the French do well (aside from food and dressing their women)?

Their president will likely be more pro-American than our next president.

myboynoah · 01-04-2008, 03:46 AM

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Their president will likely be more pro-American than our next president.

Funny, and driving home my point better than I ever could have, all at the same time.

Brilliant!

woot · 01-04-2008, 03:44 AM

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List for me what it is that the French do well (aside from food and dressing their women)?

They produce more research per capita, they don't bomb and occupy other countries, they don't torture people, they don't keep their people in constant fear of terrorism, their people are much healthier and live longer, etc.

I won't ever argue that our experiment in capitalism is not an outrageous success in economic terms, but there are other costs, and the current furor in response to 9/11 has done much to reduce our position in the world.

BYU71 · 01-04-2008, 03:46 AM

[QUOTE=woot;169683]They produce more research per capita, they don't bomb and occupy other countries, they don't torture people, they don't keep their people in constant fear of terrorism, their people are much healthier and live longer, etc.

I won't ever argue that our experiment in capitalism is not an outrageous success in economic terms, but there are other costs, and the current furor in response to 9/11 has done much to reduce our position in the world.[/QUOT

Yea and there country is run over time and time again and someone has to bail them out.

woot · 01-04-2008, 03:49 AM

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Yea and there country is run over time and time again and someone has to bail them out.

If we were a small country in the middle of a bunch of others that would be true for us as well. That's an irrelevant argument.

01-04-2008, 03:24 AM	#1
Cali Coug Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,996	Obama looking to storm through to the White House!!!!! I haven't been this excited about a political victory in my lifetime. Obama beat the odds and knocked off a tough Clinton campaign in Iowa, of all places. I think there are lots of messages to take from tonight. First, independents are leaning HEAVILY Democratic right now. That may have shifted with an Obama loss tonight towards McCain, but Obama has HUGE momentum now, and independents are likely to continue flocking to his campaign, propelling him to wins in New Hampshire and South Carolina. Second, people in America really want change. That is bad news for Clinton, who superficially appears to be more of the same, due to her connection to Bill. This could be a tidal wave election, where Obama has a real chance to overwhelmingly be elected as the next president. If a black man can win in Iowa, one of the whitest of all states with a solid evangelical base, from a party attracting more than twice the turnout in a caucus than the Republican party, where can't he win? For the first time in the history of this great nation, the ultimate glass ceiling may be about to be shattered for African-Americans. And, as the excitement about that fact builds, African-Americans may be involved in voting in unprecedented numbers. This is a historic day, and a thrilling one.

01-04-2008, 03:32 AM	#3
BYU71 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,084	Awesome, he is going to get rid of lobbyists, unite Americans, provide health care for all , middle class tax cuts, stop sending jobs abroad, bring the troops home, eliminate the terrorists and make all Americans feel good about Americans. The only problem is with a democratic congress he will turn us in France. What good will it do to feel good about being an American when we will be French.

01-04-2008, 03:46 AM	#9
BYU71 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,084	[QUOTE=woot;169683]They produce more research per capita, they don't bomb and occupy other countries, they don't torture people, they don't keep their people in constant fear of terrorism, their people are much healthier and live longer, etc. I won't ever argue that our experiment in capitalism is not an outrageous success in economic terms, but there are other costs, and the current furor in response to 9/11 has done much to reduce our position in the world.[/QUOT Yea and there country is run over time and time again and someone has to bail them out.