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Cali Coug · 11-06-2008, 06:51 PM

If the reports are true from Fox News (it would be a first), on top of everything else we have already heard about Palin's total ignorance of life outside of Alaska, she also didn't know Africa was a continent and didn't know the names of the nations of North America (shocking, particularly given that she bordered one of them and was a state of another, needing just one more to get the answer right!).

To select Palin knowing as little about her as McCain knew, and then to continue on with her on the ticket, knowing full well that she was totally incompetent to be vice-president, let alone president, is an act of political malpractice. What happened to the guy who would "put his country first, even if it costs him an election?" That sure isn't what seems to have happened with Palin, assuming Fox isn't just making stuff up again.

Tex · 11-06-2008, 06:55 PM

Cali, maybe you didn't realize it, but your guy won. Congratulations! Move forward and enact your agenda!

Stop parading around like such a preening jerk.

BarbaraGordon · 11-06-2008, 08:18 PM

I rather agree with Tex.

TripletDaddy · 11-06-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

I rather agree with Tex.

Cali is simply getting a jumpstart on the 2012 Primaries!

Ma'ake · 11-06-2008, 09:01 PM

* She couldn't answer which countries are in NAFTA - charitably, it could be that she hesitated not knowing if there were non-NA nations involved.

* Didn't know Africa was not actually a country, but a continent - somewhat understandable (from a generic Joe Sixpack perspective) given that there is a nation called "South Africa" (thus implying there my be a nation called "Africa", like Virginia & West Virginia).

* Refused preparation for Couric & Gibson interviews

* Threw tantrums at bad press clippings

I agree with Tex, somewhat. This is water under the bridge. But to the extent Palin might come back in 4 years as a GOP favorite, it's interesting & instructive to know some of her personality revealed from behind the curtain. She seems much like Bush II in terms of lack of general curiosity, certainly seems to have the ego to think she can charm her way through, doesn't have to prepare. Congruence with the "Diva" tag leaked from McCain campaign insiders.

At the heart, this is the "anti-intellectualism" concern expressed by some thoughtful conservatives at where the GOP is headed.

It will be interesting to see where the Palin movement goes.

Cali Coug · 11-06-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex

Cali, maybe you didn't realize it, but your guy won. Congratulations! Move forward and enact your agenda!

Stop parading around like such a preening jerk.

History is what it is. I simply point it out.

Tex · 11-06-2008, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug

History is what it is. I simply point it out.

You are a small man.

Cali Coug · 11-06-2008, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex

You are a small man.

I just look small to you because you are looking at me from Alaska.

Cali Coug · 11-06-2008, 11:03 PM

I find the opinion that it isn't "nice" to point out the absurdity of McCain's pick after the election to be misplaced.

His pick was absurd. Picks like that in the future should be avoided. They will only be avoided if we call politicians on the absurdity of picks like McCain's.

I argued a while back that what McCain was doing with Palin was a tragedy for democracy. I feel even more strongly now than I did then that I was right. Not only was the fact that she was totally sheltered from the critical eye of the public a bad step for democracy, the more we learn about the reasons she was sheltered, the more we realize just how bad the pick really was. Palin would have been a disaster for the nation as VP. She would have been an even greater disaster for the nation as president if something were to happen to McCain, and yet, they were a few million votes away (likely far less than that) from winning the election.

McCain said multiple times that he would "rather lose an election than lose a war." "Country first." His pick of Palin, and his continuing support of Palin in light of what he learned about her following her selection, totally undermines his credibility on that front.

Palin represents a tremendous step backwards for our political process. Fortunately she lost. Unfortunately, it wasn't by much (in terms of votes cast). A bright, shining light needs to focus on what happened and how it was that a person so unqualified for the office came so close to gaining it, with the knowing assistance of an American patriot.

creekster · 11-06-2008, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug

I just look small to you because you are looking at me from Alaska.

Are you in Russia?

11-06-2008, 06:51 PM	#1
Cali Coug Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,996	McCain committed political malpractice. If the reports are true from Fox News (it would be a first), on top of everything else we have already heard about Palin's total ignorance of life outside of Alaska, she also didn't know Africa was a continent and didn't know the names of the nations of North America (shocking, particularly given that she bordered one of them and was a state of another, needing just one more to get the answer right!). To select Palin knowing as little about her as McCain knew, and then to continue on with her on the ticket, knowing full well that she was totally incompetent to be vice-president, let alone president, is an act of political malpractice. What happened to the guy who would "put his country first, even if it costs him an election?" That sure isn't what seems to have happened with Palin, assuming Fox isn't just making stuff up again.

11-06-2008, 06:55 PM	#2
Tex Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,596	Cali, maybe you didn't realize it, but your guy won. Congratulations! Move forward and enact your agenda! Stop parading around like such a preening jerk. __________________ "Have we been commanded not to call a prophet an insular racist? Link?" "And yes, [2010] is a very good year to be a Democrat. Perhaps the best year in decades ..." - Cali Coug "Oh dear, granny, what a long tail our puss has got." - Brigham Young

11-06-2008, 08:18 PM	#3
BarbaraGordon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Gotham City Posts: 7,157	I rather agree with Tex.

11-06-2008, 09:01 PM	#5
Ma'ake Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SLC Posts: 441	* She couldn't answer which countries are in NAFTA - charitably, it could be that she hesitated not knowing if there were non-NA nations involved. * Didn't know Africa was not actually a country, but a continent - somewhat understandable (from a generic Joe Sixpack perspective) given that there is a nation called "South Africa" (thus implying there my be a nation called "Africa", like Virginia & West Virginia). * Refused preparation for Couric & Gibson interviews * Threw tantrums at bad press clippings I agree with Tex, somewhat. This is water under the bridge. But to the extent Palin might come back in 4 years as a GOP favorite, it's interesting & instructive to know some of her personality revealed from behind the curtain. She seems much like Bush II in terms of lack of general curiosity, certainly seems to have the ego to think she can charm her way through, doesn't have to prepare. Congruence with the "Diva" tag leaked from McCain campaign insiders. At the heart, this is the "anti-intellectualism" concern expressed by some thoughtful conservatives at where the GOP is headed. It will be interesting to see where the Palin movement goes.

11-06-2008, 11:03 PM	#9
Cali Coug Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,996	I find the opinion that it isn't "nice" to point out the absurdity of McCain's pick after the election to be misplaced. His pick was absurd. Picks like that in the future should be avoided. They will only be avoided if we call politicians on the absurdity of picks like McCain's. I argued a while back that what McCain was doing with Palin was a tragedy for democracy. I feel even more strongly now than I did then that I was right. Not only was the fact that she was totally sheltered from the critical eye of the public a bad step for democracy, the more we learn about the reasons she was sheltered, the more we realize just how bad the pick really was. Palin would have been a disaster for the nation as VP. She would have been an even greater disaster for the nation as president if something were to happen to McCain, and yet, they were a few million votes away (likely far less than that) from winning the election. McCain said multiple times that he would "rather lose an election than lose a war." "Country first." His pick of Palin, and his continuing support of Palin in light of what he learned about her following her selection, totally undermines his credibility on that front. Palin represents a tremendous step backwards for our political process. Fortunately she lost. Unfortunately, it wasn't by much (in terms of votes cast). A bright, shining light needs to focus on what happened and how it was that a person so unqualified for the office came so close to gaining it, with the knowing assistance of an American patriot.