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11-10-2008, 03:06 PM | #1 |
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Unintended effects of LDS Church's Prop 8 involvement
Does anyone here (I see that marsupial does) have a family member/friend/close acquaintance (including yourself) whose testimony/support/faith of the LDS Church has been hampered by the Church's heavy backing of Prop 8? I do, and it's 100% not a case of "his/her testimony wasn't very strong to begin with" because it absolutely was.
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11-10-2008, 03:23 PM | #2 | |
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That said, I have many more friends/family/aquaintances whose testimony/support/faith has been greatly increased by the church's backing on this issue. As for me, nothing has changed with regard to how I feel about the LDS church or concerning my testimony of the restored gospel. |
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11-10-2008, 04:40 PM | #3 | |
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I am surprised at how effective those damned mormons were. In fact I have a sly grin at the power the mighty organization chose to swing. Disagree with the Church's position or disagree with the Church's foray into politics, but damn one has got to be impressed with the influence the Church had. I am not referring to the mobilizing members to vote, I am referring to mobilizing the Yes vote, of whom the LDS demagrapic is likely a small minority. My apologies to those who got shaken up that the LDS Church feels strongly about traditional marriage or that the LDS Church jumps into political issues on occassion. Perhaps a refresher course on LDS beliefs and LDS history might help them to see that this was not an enormous straying from previous policy. The loss of testimony of faithful members over this issue is best explained by Archaea's lack of innoculation theory, best I can tell.
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11-10-2008, 04:58 PM | #4 | |
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And what other political issues are you referring to that the LDS Church has jumped into like Prop 8? |
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11-10-2008, 05:00 PM | #5 |
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The M/X Missile project, a liberal cause celebre. It was impressive as well, derailing what a popular president wanted to do.
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11-10-2008, 05:36 PM | #6 | |
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Interesting, no?
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11-10-2008, 06:16 PM | #7 | |
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Kimball was against the M/X missile project, a position that ran counter to conservative hawks at the time. But the extent of the church's effort was a First Presidency statement and little more. Not even close to the prop 8 case.
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11-10-2008, 06:25 PM | #8 |
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ERA was a bigger involvement from the Church by FAR. ERA was an amendment to the U.S. constitution and the Church mobilized on a national scale. Prop 8 was peanuts compared to the Church's effort on ERA.
I was just a kid back in the late 70s and lived in San Diego. I remember going to an Area conference in Pasadena (Rose Bowl) were Spencer W. Kimball (the prophet at the time) was speaking. There were many vocal Anti LDS protesters outside the Rose Bowl as well as people passing out No and Yes literature on ERA. |
11-10-2008, 06:29 PM | #9 | |
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But I could be wrong. I was pretty young at the time.
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11-10-2008, 06:33 PM | #10 | |
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I was realtively young for the ERA fight, but in my mind the efforts were a little different. I think the church was much more involved at a national leadership level in the ERA fight. Talks at conference and other meetings, public appearnces and statements, etc. Not much of that happened with Prop 8. Prop 8 is most simialr to twhat the church did 8 years ago with prop 22 in california, which was prop 8's predecessor. During that effort we were asked to doante money, wlak precincts, call voters, and put up signs. I don't thihnk the effort was quite as intenase, but it was simialr.
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