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Jeff Lebowski · 12-28-2007, 05:10 PM

Vote now for the biggest game-time coaching blunder in BYU football history.

smokymountainrain · 12-28-2007, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Vote now for the biggest game-time coaching blunder in BYU football history.

How about Bronco punting on 4th and 2 on the 38 in the 4th against UCLA.

or Bronco Punting on 4th and 5 on the 27 yard line against UCLA (this one should have cost BYU the game - and the game likely wouldn't have even hung in the balance had he not punted on the earlier 4th down I mentioned above)

BYU71 · 12-28-2007, 05:20 PM

Anyone voting Crowton over Anae is just a Crowton hater and or is clueless when it comes to football and football decisions. I am not kidding either.

cougjunkie · 12-28-2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

Anyone voting Crowton over Anae is just a Crowton hater and or is clueless when it comes to football and football decisions. I am not kidding either.

I voted Crowton over Anae for one reason, we lost the Crowton game and won the Anae game but they are probably equally dumb decisions.

Also let me add that another dumb decisions is any sort of stretch handoff on 3rd or 4th and 1. Why give the ball to your running back 5 yards in teh backfield.

Indy Coug · 12-28-2007, 05:58 PM

There was still something like 3 minutes left in the Stanford game. There was less than 30 seconds left in the first half against UCLA.

There was something to be gained by getting a first down, by run or pass against Stanford, in order to run out the clock. Stanford had the time, the time outs and the ability to win the game after getting the ball back.

There was nothing to be gained by running the ball against UCLA. UCLA only had one timeout and likely wouldn't have even used it if BYU had just taken a knee. BYU was up 11 and had all the momentum on their side.

The UCLA call was clearly the stupider of the two and anyone who disagrees with it is as BYU71 described them.

Jeff Lebowski · 12-28-2007, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

There was still something like 3 minutes left in the Stanford game. There was less than 30 seconds left in the first half against UCLA.

There was something to be gained by getting a first down, by run or pass against Stanford, in order to run out the clock. Stanford had the time, the time outs and the ability to win the game after getting the ball back.

There was nothing to be gained by running the ball against UCLA. UCLA only had one timeout and likely wouldn't have even used it if BYU had just taken a knee. BYU was up 11 and had all the momentum on their side.

The UCLA call was clearly the stupider of the two and anyone who disagrees with it is either as BYU71 described them.

Agreed.

The handoff made no sense whatsoever. There were 19 seconds left in the half. He either gets a short gain or he fumbles.

Cali Coug · 12-28-2007, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

There was still something like 3 minutes left in the Stanford game. There was less than 30 seconds left in the first half against UCLA.

There was something to be gained by getting a first down, by run or pass against Stanford, in order to run out the clock. Stanford had the time, the time outs and the ability to win the game after getting the ball back.

There was nothing to be gained by running the ball against UCLA. UCLA only had one timeout and likely wouldn't have even used it if BYU had just taken a knee. BYU was up 11 and had all the momentum on their side.

The UCLA call was clearly the stupider of the two and anyone who disagrees with it is as BYU71 described them.

True, but I think the explanation is what killed Crowton. If he did it to avoid punting, that is one thing. But he said he passed to win by 9, not by 2. That is just stupid.

woot · 12-28-2007, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug

True, but I think the explanation is what killed Crowton. If he did it to avoid punting, that is one thing. But he said he passed to win by 9, not by 2. That is just stupid.

That explanation, along with the ultimate result, are why I voted for Crowton's call. Bronco's explanation was also stupid, since having confidence in your running game, particularly when Unga had been getting hammered in the backfield all game, doesn't seem wise or relevant in that situation, but it's still not as dumb as Crowton's explanation.

BYU71 · 12-28-2007, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug

True, but I think the explanation is what killed Crowton. If he did it to avoid punting, that is one thing. But he said he passed to win by 9, not by 2. That is just stupid.

I thought the vote was on the decision, not the explanation. As far as explanation goes, I am far more impressed with how Bronco and Anae are handling it.

jay santos · 12-28-2007, 07:29 PM

Crowton's was a bad call. But made worse by a dumb QB decision of throwing against your body on a roll out into traffic. So it's kinda 50/50 on Crowton and Beck on that.

Anae's was a bad call. But a lot of coaches run the ball in that situation. Anae was guilty of blindly following what he's seen before. A coach will run the ball from the 20 with 30 seconds on the clock because you have a 1/10 chance to break it for 20 yards which sets you up to run another play for a shot at a field goal or a hail mary. Also, a fumble on the 20 usually means giving up a field goal not 7 points. But we were on the 5 and giving the ball to a big bruiser not a speed back that busts long runs. Very bad idea.

I always hate punting inside the 40.

Pretty close to a tie for all three.

View Poll Results: What is the worst game-time decision
Crowton's attempt to "win by 9 instead of by 2", late in the game, resulting in an INT by Beck	15	41.67%
Bronco punting on the 35-yd-line on fourth and 2 late in the game vs. BC.	2	5.56%
Anae handing off to Unga at the end of the first half vs. UCLA	17	47.22%
Other (please describe)	2	5.56%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

12-28-2007, 05:10 PM	#1
Jeff Lebowski Charon Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the heart of darkness (Provo) Posts: 9,564	Worst call in BYU history Vote now for the biggest game-time coaching blunder in BYU football history. __________________ "... the arc of the universe is long but it bends toward justice." Martin Luther King, Jr. Last edited by Jeff Lebowski; 12-28-2007 at 05:13 PM.

12-28-2007, 05:58 PM	#5
Indy Coug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Between Iraq and a hard place Posts: 7,569	There was still something like 3 minutes left in the Stanford game. There was less than 30 seconds left in the first half against UCLA. There was something to be gained by getting a first down, by run or pass against Stanford, in order to run out the clock. Stanford had the time, the time outs and the ability to win the game after getting the ball back. There was nothing to be gained by running the ball against UCLA. UCLA only had one timeout and likely wouldn't have even used it if BYU had just taken a knee. BYU was up 11 and had all the momentum on their side. The UCLA call was clearly the stupider of the two and anyone who disagrees with it is as BYU71 described them. Last edited by Indy Coug; 12-28-2007 at 06:02 PM.

12-28-2007, 05:20 PM	#3
BYU71 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,084	Anyone voting Crowton over Anae is just a Crowton hater and or is clueless when it comes to football and football decisions. I am not kidding either.

12-28-2007, 07:29 PM	#10
jay santos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,177	Crowton's was a bad call. But made worse by a dumb QB decision of throwing against your body on a roll out into traffic. So it's kinda 50/50 on Crowton and Beck on that. Anae's was a bad call. But a lot of coaches run the ball in that situation. Anae was guilty of blindly following what he's seen before. A coach will run the ball from the 20 with 30 seconds on the clock because you have a 1/10 chance to break it for 20 yards which sets you up to run another play for a shot at a field goal or a hail mary. Also, a fumble on the 20 usually means giving up a field goal not 7 points. But we were on the 5 and giving the ball to a big bruiser not a speed back that busts long runs. Very bad idea. I always hate punting inside the 40. Pretty close to a tie for all three.