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Old 11-16-2008, 07:00 PM   #1
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because as I evaluate the two teams, my Bayesian logic says Utah wins this game seven out of ten times.

Utah has progressed over the season and BYU has tanked since the USU game, showing no improvement, but merely appeared to be hanging on.

We have Unga, injured, and Pitta potentially injured. Our middle defense is very weak, weaker than we've ever had in a long time. Utah has two backs and some great receivers. I could see Utah lighting up the scoreboard and we not being able to keep pace.

This defense seems as weak as Bronco's first season, so a bad defeat a la TCU is a distinct possibility.

Junkie is there any reason for hope? Our offense has been sputtering, at times efficient but other times it's as if they can't walk and chew gum. It would be a treat to win this game, but I fully expect Utah to win by fourteen to twenty points and Whit will run up the score if he can to impress BCS voters. This game poses the worst scenario for BYU.
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Old 11-16-2008, 07:27 PM   #2
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How about this for a reason to help you:

It's the rivalry game. Throw all the stats, records and everything else out because the really have no bearing on the rivalry game.
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Old 11-16-2008, 07:38 PM   #3
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How about this for a reason to help you:

It's the rivalry game. Throw all the stats, records and everything else out because the really have no bearing on the rivalry game.
That's not a reason. I hope the Cougars can win, but see no reason why they should, our defense is just toooooooooo pathetic.
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Old 11-16-2008, 07:43 PM   #4
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How about this for a reason to help you:

It's the rivalry game. Throw all the stats, records and everything else out because the really have no bearing on the rivalry game.
Exactly. Except for years in which one team is substantially better than the other (i.e. 2004 or all of the 70's and 80's), you can throw expectations, records, etc. out.
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Old 11-16-2008, 08:51 PM   #5
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How about this for a reason to help you:

It's the rivalry game. Throw all the stats, records and everything else out because the really have no bearing on the rivalry game.
I'm just treating this like the next game on the schedule.
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I'm just treating this like the next game on the schedule.
That's a good approach. It's similar to my approach - that it's 3-4 hours of relief from my dismal existence.
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That's a good approach. It's similar to my approach - that it's 3-4 hours of relief from my dismal existence.
Whoa. How can a life that includes Bob and Doug be dismal?
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Whoa. How can a life that includes Bob and Doug be dismal?
My life is not what it seems.

Bob and Doug offer me hope.
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is a very bad idea with this rivalry game, especially when the teams are so evenly matched. I think Utah has the edge, but I am not allowing myself to get very confident about this one. If we win I'll have plenty of time to enjoy the victory (and I will, big-time!).

OTOH, if we lose, that will be painful enough without making it worse by bragging up a storm even before the kickoff.

Anyone who's followed this rivalry for even the last 10 years knows that there's no sure thing. BYU is a good team and will be motivated. I'll start enjoying a win when the clock runs out and Utah is still ahead. Not until then!
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because as I evaluate the two teams, my Bayesian logic says Utah wins this game seven out of ten times.

Utah has progressed over the season and BYU has tanked since the USU game, showing no improvement, but merely appeared to be hanging on.

We have Unga, injured, and Pitta potentially injured. Our middle defense is very weak, weaker than we've ever had in a long time. Utah has two backs and some great receivers. I could see Utah lighting up the scoreboard and we not being able to keep pace.

This defense seems as weak as Bronco's first season, so a bad defeat a la TCU is a distinct possibility.

Junkie is there any reason for hope? Our offense has been sputtering, at times efficient but other times it's as if they can't walk and chew gum. It would be a treat to win this game, but I fully expect Utah to win by fourteen to twenty points and Whit will run up the score if he can to impress BCS voters. This game poses the worst scenario for BYU.
Still thinking. Our defense is clearly our weak spot........by a long shot. They can't stop a good running game and if the QB has enough time (and we have been pathetic in our pash rush) they complete passes.

So, I'm still thinking. Sorry, no comfort.
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