Reading assignment for Pearl of Great Price Class

[All-American]

So here is the reading assignment for tomorrow's Pearl of Great Price class:

Abraham 1:1-20, 28-31.

Observation 1: yeah, it's short. We had a paper due, also. Even so, it's a light load.

Observation two: check out the verses he skipped. Don't think I won't be mentioning it tomorrow.

The coward.

[il Padrino Ute]

Interesting.

Go get'em AA.

[Archaea]

I've never known what to think of these verses, but I've liked the tradition set forth in this verse:

Pharaoh, being a righteous man, established his kingdom and judged his people wisely and justly all his days, seeking earnestly to imitate that aorder established by the fathers in the first generations, in the days of the first patriarchal reign, even in the reign of Adam, and also of Noah, his father, who blessed him with the bblessings of the earth, and with the blessings of wisdom, but cursed him as pertaining to the Priesthood.

Which Pharaoh is referred to here? Is the lineage of Pharaoh from the First Dynasty to the Ptolemalic Dynasty?

This verse is confusing and does not look upon the true origins of Egypt, so it is a perplexing verse. Yes I know Seattle's claim, it's all bullshit. However, if we give a more charitable reading, what the hell does it mean?

[All-American]

Originally Posted by Archaea

I've never known what to think of these verses, but I've liked the tradition set forth in this verse:

Pharaoh, being a righteous man, established his kingdom and judged his people wisely and justly all his days, seeking earnestly to imitate that aorder established by the fathers in the first generations, in the days of the first patriarchal reign, even in the reign of Adam, and also of Noah, his father, who blessed him with the bblessings of the earth, and with the blessings of wisdom, but cursed him as pertaining to the Priesthood.

Which Pharaoh is referred to here? Is the lineage of Pharaoh from the First Dynasty to the Ptolemalic Dynasty?

This verse is confusing and does not look upon the true origins of Egypt, so it is a perplexing verse. Yes I know Seattle's claim, it's all bullshit. However, if we give a more charitable reading, what the hell does it mean?

I think the loosest idea that you can get from these verses is that the Egyptian system of government (which was also the Egyptian religious system) was modeled on the priesthood order established by God.

A run through of the Egyptian temple is startling to an endowed latter-day saint. I have some files left over somewhere from an Ancient Near Eastern class on the Egyptian Temple; I'll look for them and see if I can't post them here.

[Surfah]

Originally Posted by All-American

I think the loosest idea that you can get from these verses is that the Egyptian system of government (which was also the Egyptian religious system) was modeled on the priesthood order established by God.

A run through of the Egyptian temple is startling to an endowed latter-day saint. I have some files left over somewhere from an Ancient Near Eastern class on the Egyptian Temple; I'll look for them and see if I can't post them here.

Had an interesting lesson in SS once on this where the teacher taught this very idea.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by surfah33

Had an interesting lesson in SS once on this where the teacher taught this very idea.

Sekret is not a pharaoh I know much about, and Narmer was known as the Scorpion King. So was Rock a righteous man, because he got righteously laid in the movie?

[All-American]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Sekret is not a pharaoh I know much about, and Narmer was known as the Scorpion King. So was Rock a righteous man, because he got righteously laid in the movie?

We know comparatively nothing about Egypt's first dynasties. And who knows if that is what Abraham is referring to, anyway. Most scholars doubt that what we have labeled the first dynasty was really the first dynasty.

[Mormon Red Death]

Originally Posted by surfah33

Had an interesting lesson in SS once on this where the teacher taught this very idea.

I had an institute teacher at the U who taught this idea as well

[All-American]

Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death

I had an institute teacher at the U who taught this idea as well

Well, geez, you two, go look at the Egyptian Temples thread and give some feedback. Humor me, please.

[All-American]

Allright, the update. I asked the teacher about the conspicuously missing verses and he promised that they would be covered in a different class period. I suppose he gets a pass on that for now.

Truth be told, it was actually a rather good lecture today. We spent about an hour talking about various problems people have with the Book of Abraham-- debunking most of them, of course, but that's better than not mentioning them at all, methinks.

Topping it off was a twenty minute or so discussion on what to do if information gained from science, history, etc. seems to conflict with the revealed word. The general consensus was not to be afraid of conflicts of those kinds. Given that we don't know everything about science, history, OR religion, it would be very surprising if they should agree with each other on all counts. If a conflict arises between, say, Egyptology and our understanding of the Book of Abraham, either one of the two could be wrong-- and there was plenty of emphasis on the idea that our own ideas or interpretations of the scriptures may not necessarily be accurate.

Quite reasonable, all things said.